Re: [VCARDDAV] progressing the 'device' KIND

Joe Marcus Clarke <jclarke@cisco.com> Mon, 10 September 2012 04:02 UTC

Return-Path: <jclarke@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: vcarddav@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: vcarddav@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBCF21F854F for <vcarddav@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:02:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -10.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PeFU4-oioF2u for <vcarddav@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:02:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from av-tac-sj.cisco.com (av-tac-sj.cisco.com [171.68.227.119]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D566B21F853B for <vcarddav@ietf.org>; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:02:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned
Received: from rooster.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-sj.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q8A428qV002644; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:02:08 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from jclarke-mac.local ([64.103.236.27]) by rooster.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q8A420A5001515; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 00:02:01 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <504D6637.20403@cisco.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 00:01:59 -0400
From: Joe Marcus Clarke <jclarke@cisco.com>
Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc.
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Michael Angstadt <mike.angstadt@gmail.com>
References: <504A160F.90006@stpeter.im> <CAJNb_g0s-59hwo8k88fa9yiMJKtT0vdZvSb42684+vc6t0zV6A@mail.gmail.com> <504CE564.6080201@cisco.com> <CAJNb_g3pjyYn1HovkYnvOCHLcQgzgYYiGs0eqhXPK67hxujiHQ@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAJNb_g3pjyYn1HovkYnvOCHLcQgzgYYiGs0eqhXPK67hxujiHQ@mail.gmail.com>
X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: "vcarddav@ietf.org" <vcarddav@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [VCARDDAV] progressing the 'device' KIND
X-BeenThere: vcarddav@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF vcarddav wg mailing list <vcarddav.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/vcarddav>, <mailto:vcarddav-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/vcarddav>
List-Post: <mailto:vcarddav@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:vcarddav-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vcarddav>, <mailto:vcarddav-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 04:02:11 -0000

On 9/9/12 6:54 PM, Michael Angstadt wrote:
>> Thanks for your comments, Michael.  I'm looking at page 3, but I don't
>> know to what "organization" you are referring.  We are not calling out
>> organization as a KIND value here, nor are we calling out "organization"
>> as a property.  On page 4 we refer to ORG as a potential device vCard
>> property.
> 
> Hi Joe.  I was referring to the following sentence in section 1:
> 
> "During its work on the base vCard4 specification, the VCARDDAV Working
> Group defined values of "individual", "organization", "group", and
> "location" for the KIND property."
> 
> The string "organization" is not a valid value for the KIND property.
>  However, the string "org" *is* a valid value (see RFC 6350 p25).
>  The sentence should read as follows:
> 
> "During its work on the base vCard4 specification, the VCARDDAV Working
> Group defined values of "individual", "org", "group", and "location" for
> the KIND property."

Sorry, just got into India after a long trip, and I guess I can't count
very well :-).  I found the real page three now.  We will definitely
correct this.  Thanks for the input.

Joe

> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> On Sunday, September 9, 2012, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> 
>     On 9/9/12 2:41 PM, Michael Angstadt wrote:
>     > Peter,
>     >
>     > In section 1 on page 3, the correct KIND value for an organization is
>     > "org", not "organization" (see RFC 6350 p25).
> 
>     Thanks for your comments, Michael.  I'm looking at page 3, but I don't
>     know to what "organization" you are referring.  We are not calling out
>     organization as a KIND value here, nor are we calling out "organization"
>     as a property.  On page 4 we refer to ORG as a potential device vCard
>     property.
> 
>     >
>     > Also, maybe it would be beneficial to include one or two RELATED
>     > properties in the vCard example on page 6, since page 4 emphasizes the
>     > importance of using this property.
> 
>     Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll talk it over with Gonzalo and Peter.
>     This is likely a good thing to show.
> 
>     Joe
> 
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > -Mike
>     > http://code.google.com/p/ez-vcard
>     > http://mikeangstadt.name/mike-angstadt.vcf
>     >
>     > On Friday, September 7, 2012, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>     >
>     > We've had discussion here about draft-salgueiro-vcarddav-kind-device,
>     > which specifies a vCard KIND of 'device' (split out from the
>     > 'application' KIND last year). Pete Resnick, the responsible AD for
>     > the VCCARDAV WG, has agreed to AD-sponsor this document, so it will
>     > not be progressing as a WG item. However, we last discussed it on this
>     > list back in April, so feedback on version -02 would be helpful to
>     > make sure that it's in good shape. Therefore, consider this an
>     > informal last call for comments from the vCard community. If you could
>     > send your feedback in the next two weeks (before September 21st) that
>     > would be great.
>     >
>     > The spec can be found here:
>     >
>     > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-salgueiro-vcarddav-kind-device/
>     >
>     > Thanks!
>     >
>     > Peter
>     >
>     >     _______________________________________________
>     >     VCARDDAV mailing list
>     >     VCARDDAV@ietf.org <javascript:;>
>     >     https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vcarddav
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > VCARDDAV mailing list
>     > VCARDDAV@ietf.org
>     > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vcarddav
>     >
> 
>     --
>     Joe Marcus Clarke, CCIE #5384,         |          |
>     SCJP, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, VCP        |||||      |||||
>     Distinguished Services Engineer ..:|||||||||::|||||||||:..
>     Phone: +1 (919) 392-2867         c i s c o  S y s t e m s
>     Email: jclarke@cisco.com
> 
>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 


-- 
Joe Marcus Clarke, CCIE #5384,         |          |
SCJP, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, VCP        |||||      |||||
Distinguished Services Engineer ..:|||||||||::|||||||||:..
Phone: +1 (919) 392-2867         c i s c o  S y s t e m s
Email: jclarke@cisco.com

----------------------------------------------------------------------------