Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft rev-11)
"Javier Godoy" <rjgodoy@fich.unl.edu.ar> Wed, 23 June 2010 07:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft rev-11)
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On June 22, 2010 11:03 PM, Daisuke Miyakawa wrote: > Personally, I suppose it might be better to accept multiple SORT-STRING > (0,n) and ask vCard composers to explicitly add PREF when they want to add > preference information to them. Since ORG is (0,n) now it makes sense to define SORT-STRING as (0,n), but each ORG should be related to at most one SORT-STRING, thus preference is not required (the preferred organization SORT-STRING is that of the preferred ORG property) >Even when they cannot recognize multiple SORT-STRINGs, they can pick up one >with the highest PREF value. BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:4.0 name.N;宮川;大輔;;; name.FN:宮川 大輔 org1.ORG;LANGUAGE=ja;PREF=80:日本の組織 # "Japanese organization" org1.ORG;LANGUAGE=en;PREF=80:Japanese organization org2.ORG;LANGUAGE=ja;PREF=70: もう一つの日本の組織 org2.ORG;LANGUAGE=en;PREF=70:Another Japanese organization name.SORT-STRING:みやかわ;だいすけ org1.SORT-STRING:にほんのそしき org2.SORT-STRING:もう ひとつ の にっぽん の そしき NOTE: I don't understand Japanese... I'm just doing my best to understand this issue. END:VCARD Note that the case of ORG is different from N, because language dependent values may be specified. Maybe SORT-STRING should have a LANGUAGE parameter, so that several SORT-STRING may be provided (when displaying English, it has no sense to sort "Japanese organization" under "にほんのそしき", even if the implementation supports it) Besides, how are non-Japanese strings sorted among Japanese ones? Does it help to interoperability if romanized SORT-STRINGs are provided along/instead kana? Is it redundant? Is it ambiguous? SORT-STRING;にほんのそしき SORT-STRING;nippon no soshiki What would happen if some vCard authors use one approach and others use the other? Best Regards Javier
- [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft rev-1… Daisuke Miyakawa
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Javier Godoy
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Daisuke Miyakawa
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Javier Godoy
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Javier Godoy
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Daisuke Miyakawa
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Daisuke Miyakawa
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Julian Reschke
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Julian Reschke
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Javier Godoy
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Daisuke Miyakawa
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Daisuke Miyakawa
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Daisuke Miyakawa
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Javier Godoy
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft r… Simon Perreault