Re: [VCARDDAV] vCard XML
Cyrus Daboo <cyrus@daboo.name> Fri, 05 March 2010 21:34 UTC
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From: Cyrus Daboo <cyrus@daboo.name>
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Subject: Re: [VCARDDAV] vCard XML
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Hi Simon, --On March 5, 2010 4:09:36 PM -0500 Simon Perreault <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> wrote: >> 3) All XML elements in the "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:vcard-4.0" namespace >> must be mapped to their vCard equivalents (component, property, >> parameter). > >> (3) is wrong right now in that the vCard XML: property as defined allows >> for normal vCard properties to remain encoded as XML in the vCard itself >> as shown in the example in Section 5. I think this issue was discussed >> before (at a meeting or on the list) and consensus was to change that to >> follow what is proposed for iCalendar. > > I don't recall any discussion on this issue. Personally I don't care, but > a priori I would tend to favour flexibility. > > Why is it important that this cannot be written? > > XML:<email><text>simon.perreault@viagenie.ca</text></email> A vCard parser seeing this will treat it as an opaque value. vCard parsers should not be expected to parse XML into vCard properties - that is the duty of the XML<->vCard converter. >> Also, I think we should >> prefix/suffix schema elements with "property-", "param", "value-" as we >> did in iCalendar. Again that is important to avoid a clash of names >> (e.g. if the same name is used for a property and parameter in vCard). > > I think we should forbid name clashes completely in vCard. I'll add that > to the vCard base spec, and then we don't need the prefixes anymore. > > We could even remove the <parameters> element now that clashes are not an > issue. I don't think we should forbid the use of the same name in a property, parameter or value. Its seems somewhat unfair to say we can't have a DATE property or parameter now given that the only concern is how the XML schema is written (and its really just a stylistic feature of the schema - after all there is nothing that requires the relaxNG definitions to use names that match their vCard equivalents - the names of elements have to match of course). >> (8) The current vCard spec does use elements for enumerated types, e.g.: >> >> element type { >> element work { empty }?, >> element home { empty }?, >> element media { \text }? >> } >> >> In the iCalendar spec we did things like: >> >> roleparam = element role { >> "CHAIR" | >> "REQ-PARTICIPANT" | >> "OPT-PARTICIPANT" | >> "NON-PARTICIPANT" >> } >> >> Given that parameter values are text and in vCard are allowed to contain >> characters that are possibly disallowed as XML element names (e.g. "<" >> or ">" !!) I think we need to make these enumerations text values and >> not XML elements. > > Done. (There was consensus on this issue in Hiroshima.) Thanks. -- Cyrus Daboo
- [VCARDDAV] vCard XML Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vCard XML Renato Iannella
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vCard XML Renato Iannella
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vCard XML Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vCard XML Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vCard XML Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vCard XML Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vCard XML Filip Navara
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vCard XML Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vCard XML Simon Perreault