Re: [VCARDDAV] Signed vCards

Kevin Marks <kevinmarks@gmail.com> Sun, 01 September 2013 20:45 UTC

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From: Kevin Marks <kevinmarks@gmail.com>
To: DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com>, Sarah Dopp <doppjuice@gmail.com>
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If you want to construct an appropriate example of gender transition, talk
to Sarah Dopp, who advised on the nuances for vcard 4.
I'm pretty sure you should be using the gender identity component rather
than the sex component.
On Sep 1, 2013 7:18 AM, "DataPacRat" <datapacrat@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Michael Angstadt
> <mike.angstadt@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 1, 2013, DataPacRat wrote:
> >>
> >> Would it be within reason for me to use the following as an example
> >> for the DATE parameter?
> >>
> >> N;DATE=1987-12-17/2013-08-22:Bradley
> >> N;DATE=2013-08-22:Chelsea
> >> GENDER;DATE=1987-12-17/2013-08-22::M
> >> GENDER;DATE=2013-08-22:F
>
> > I don't think that example is appropriate.
>
> Would a more historical example be within bounds? Eg:
>
> N:Chevalier d'Eon
> BDAY:1728-10-5
> GENDER;DATE=1728-10-5/1774:M
> GENDER;DATE=1774/1810:F
> DEATHDATE:1810-05-21
>
> (Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevalier_d%27Eon and links
> therefrom)
>
>
> > Also, why are you including the SOCIALMEDIA property in this
> specification?
> > What does that have to do with signed vCards?
>
> The primary purpose of signed vCards is to allow for
> cryptographically-authenticated "identity assertion" (as opposed to
> current vCards, which are more along the lines of "identity
> description".). For various reasons, online identities have become
> more complicated than in the early years of the internet, and there
> are a number of situations in which it's infeasible to use, say, a
> simple email address as a canonical identity string. The existing URL
> property is insufficient to describe such things as forum profiles,
> rss feeds, Tor-network hidden-site communications, and so on. Thus, I
> believe the SOCIALMEDIA property is necessary to have established in
> order for signed vCards to fulfill their purpose.
>
> There doesn't seem to be any particularly good reason to split
> SOCIALMEDIA into its own Internet Draft, and there is arguably good
> purpose to keeping it with the rest of the identity-assertion bundle
> of properties, so it's currently all part of the same draft. If the
> benefits to creating such a split were shown to outweigh the costs of
> working with two I-Ds instead of one, that could change, but I don't
> expect that to happen.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your time,
> --
> DataPacRat
> "Then again, I could be wrong."
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