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Re: [VCARDDAV] phonetic-given-name and phonetic-family-name

Daisuke Miyakawa <d.miyakawa@gmail.com> Mon, 02 September 2013 08:52 UTC

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2013/9/2 Simon Perreault <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca>

> Le 2013-08-31 07:05, Daisuke Miyakawa a écrit :
> > One possible concern here *might* be that, Siri may not use SORT-AS, so
> > we need something else.
>
> Why doesn't Siri use SORT-AS? Is it because a) SORT-AS is not good
> enough, or b) it was using X-PHONETIC first and has not migrated to
> SORT-AS?
>
> If it's a), then we may need something else.
> If it's b), then I don't see how defining something else would solve

anything.
>

I think voice synthesis programs want to use information about
pronunciation,
not about sorting. Pronunciation and sorting are different things.
BTW, I saw some thread about that topic before:

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/vcarddav/current/msg02067.html

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Daisuke Miyakawa (宮川大輔)
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