Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-phonetic-transcription-00.txt
DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com> Thu, 12 September 2013 01:23 UTC
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On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Teiichiro Fukuda <te-fukuda@kddi-tech.com> wrote: > Hi, > I wrote a new draft defined phonetic transcription capabilities as a vCard > property. > I ask the opinion of a lot in this draft. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fukuda-vcarddav-phonetic-transcription-00 How should this be used for names which already use Latin/English letters, but which a vCard author wishes to describe phonetically? Eg, to express "My name is spelled 'Boese', but it is pronounced like the first word in 'bows and arrows'." How should these properties be used when there is more than one given name, such as "Daniel Eliot Boese"? Have you given any thought to the use of the International Phonetic Alphabet? Would it be worthwhile to mention a particular ASCII transliteration of IPA, such as X-SAMPA, to allow vCard authors to more easily enter such text? Do you know what the appropriate language-code (for the LANGUAGE parameter) for the IPA is? Would it be possible to accomplish your goals by using the existing LANGUAGE and PREF parameters, eg: FN;PREF=1;LANGUAGE=en:Daniel Eliot Boese FN;PREF=99;LANGUAGE=en-fonxsamp:d{n.j@l ElI@t boz Have you read the article, "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Names", available at http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/ (and translated into Japanese at http://www.emptypage.jp/translations/kalzumeus/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names.html ) , and considered how many of them are currently part of your draft, and how many it's possible to avoid? Thank you for your time, -- DataPacRat "Then again, I could be wrong."
- [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-phonet… Teiichiro Fukuda
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Daisuke Miyakawa
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Teiichiro Fukuda
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Teiichiro Fukuda
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Gren Elliot
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Michael Angstadt
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… DataPacRat
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Gren Elliot
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Gren Elliot
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Pete Resnick
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Barry Leiba
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [VCARDDAV] Review of draft-fukuda-vcarddav-ph… Teiichiro Fukuda