Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND:device
Joe Marcus Clarke <jclarke@cisco.com> Wed, 11 January 2012 19:10 UTC
Return-Path: <jclarke@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: vcarddav@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: vcarddav@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB00D21F8605 for <vcarddav@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 11:10:29 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -9.849
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.849 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_46=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8mjoNDGnfEP8 for <vcarddav@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 11:10:24 -0800 (PST)
Received: from av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (hen.cisco.com [64.102.19.198]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7969521F85F6 for <vcarddav@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 11:10:24 -0800 (PST)
X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned
Received: from rooster.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q0BJANlU008185; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:10:23 -0500 (EST)
Received: from dhcp-64-102-208-164.cisco.com (dhcp-64-102-208-164.cisco.com [64.102.208.164]) by rooster.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q0BJAMmm008173; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:10:22 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <4F0DDE9E.30808@cisco.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:10:22 -0500
From: Joe Marcus Clarke <jclarke@cisco.com>
Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc.
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Simon Perreault <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca>
References: <4F073CD8.1060102@stpeter.im> <1DE983233DBBEB4A81F18FABD8208D7614088000@XMB108FCNC.rim.net> <4F0B207B.70707@cisco.com> <4F0DA1F3.2070202@viagenie.ca> <4F0DD733.3000505@cisco.com> <4F0DDC70.6020403@viagenie.ca>
In-Reply-To: <4F0DDC70.6020403@viagenie.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: CardDAV <vcarddav@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND:device
X-BeenThere: vcarddav@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF vcarddav wg mailing list <vcarddav.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/vcarddav>, <mailto:vcarddav-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/vcarddav>
List-Post: <mailto:vcarddav@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:vcarddav-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vcarddav>, <mailto:vcarddav-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:10:35 -0000
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:10:35 -0000
On 1/11/12 2:01 PM, Simon Perreault wrote: > On 01/11/2012 01:38 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >> On 1/11/12 9:51 AM, Simon Perreault wrote: >>> On 01/09/2012 12:14 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >>>> We did add UID as a holder for serial number. >>> >>> I'd be careful with that idea. What tells a vCard consumer that the UID >>> property also happens to contain a serial number? Seems like pointless >>> overloading to me. Better just create a new serial number property. It's >>> free, you know... ;) >> >> I do. I was arguing that a "unique identifier" for a device would >> likely be a serial number since that is burned into the device. Gonzalo >> and I were debating this further and I'm coming around to provisioning a >> serial number property vs. overloading UID. But since UID can hold a >> text value like this, it would be legal to do a serial number here, >> right? > > I'm not sure you understood my point. > > Yes it would be *legal* for the UID property to hold a serial number. > > The problem I'm thinking of would arise if, in *any* circumstance, you > try to *interpret* the UID property as a serial number, or you try to > *extract* a serial number from it. If you don't want to do that, fine, > but then I'd still be curious as to why a randomly-generated UUID > wouldn't be easier. I got the point. I was getting clarification in my last sentence, but the overall message is that I agree it would be better to use a new property that would be specific to serial number. In that way, one would know that they are reading a serial number and a UUID could still be used as a way of grouping devices in, say, group vCards. Joe > > Simon -- Joe Marcus Clarke, CCIE #5384, | | SCJP, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, VCP ||||| ||||| Distinguished Support Engineer ..:|||||||||::|||||||||:.. Phone: +1 (919) 392-2867 c i s c o S y s t e m s Email: jclarke@cisco.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- [VCARDDAV] KIND:device Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND:device Zoltan Ordogh
- Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND:device Joe Marcus Clarke
- Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND:device Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND:device Zoltan Ordogh
- Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND:device Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND:device Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND:device Joe Marcus Clarke
- Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND:device Simon Perreault
- Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND:device Joe Marcus Clarke
- Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND:device Joe Marcus Clarke
- Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND:device Peter K. Sheerin