[Venue-selection] Comments on Cairns, Brisbane and Melbourne
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Tue, 01 June 2021 18:43 UTC
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Subject: [Venue-selection] Comments on Cairns, Brisbane and Melbourne
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It appears that IETF Executive Director <exec-director@ietf.org> said: > Brisbane, recommended as Suitable, report at [3] > Cairns, recommended as Suitable, report at [4] > Melbourne, recommended as Suitable, report at [5] Australia has the most draconian anti-encryption laws in the developed world, perhaps in the entire world. See, for example, this BBC piece which explains that the government can require access to *all* material, and strong encryption is effectively illegal: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-46463029 If we meant what we said in RFC 1984 I don't see how we can meet anywhere in Australia. R's, John
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