Re: [vmeet] Suggestion

"Howard, Lee" <lee.howard@twcable.com> Sat, 09 April 2016 12:12 UTC

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From: "Howard, Lee" <lee.howard@twcable.com>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com>
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On 4/8/16, 5:16 PM, "Michael Richardson" <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:

>
>Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com> wrote:
>    > video content less active (limit it to slide projection as opposed
>to a
>    > human face, or change the codec, or have the human able to turn it
>off
>    > without losing audio, etc). If we have packet sequence numbers,
>maybe
>    > we want to capture realtime statistics on packet lose, delay
>variation,
>    > and so on.
>
>If we could have all slides uploaded before the meeting, then we wouldn't
>have to project the VGA signal, but could project remote controlled PDF
>instead.  I think that meetecho did this before.

I agree, and wouldn¹t auto-format slides, but have the MeetEcho dashboard
include the Display Slide function, which would pull them directly from
the materials link.

>
>I like the MOS ideas.

I would even put a radio dial or slider into MeetEcho allowing MOS
feedback directly in the app. With sequence numbers and/or flow data,  we
could get useful feedback on what¹s causing problems. A general spec for
this would allow it to be generalized to other apps, too.

>
>    > Part of this also has to do with the chair's "cockpit". From Lee
>and my
>    > perspective chairing v6ops on Monday, life was pretty busy. My
>laptop
>    > was projecting slides, and I was interacting with speakers and
>people
>    > in the room. In the room we had a jabber scribe and someone taking
>    > notes on what is oddly called an Etherpad. Lee had jabber in a pane,
>    > the Etherpad on a pane, his own notes on a pane, and meetecho
>control
>    > on a separate laptop. I didn't actually bring it (intended to but
>    > managed to leave it in my room in an overflow hotel), but I usually
>    > have an iPad for my own notes. Add to that Lee being able to chase
>the
>    > blue sheets, interact with the A/V team, or otherwise run around the
>    > room, and - well, let's just say I'm glad I have a co-chair. It
>takes
>    > two. At this point, I'm wondering how to simplify all that. Not
>    > offering suggestions right now, but I think we need to think about
>that
>    > in the context of virtualizing meetings.
>
>1) note takers could be remote.

Only if audio is good.

>2) why did Lee have both etherpad and his own notes?

Sometimes I¹m able to add or correct a speaker¹s name in etherpad, but my
own notes often include comments and followup notes to myself that are not
appropriate for the etherpad notes. Not that they¹re Inappropriate, but
they can include suggestions for future work, or gaps, etc.
I merge my notes with etherpad when preparing minutes.

>3) I like etherpad and use it regularly, but couldn't notes go into
>jabber?

No. Jabber is also useful for background questions and corrections, which
again are not appropriate for minutes.


Envisioning integrated meeting management tool. . .
Chair View
Agenda
Chair enters the list of drafts or discussion topics, and time assigned
to each.
Tool generates agenda, with links to drafts. Assume 5 minute
Administrivia.
Materials
Agenda automatically prepared from Agenda tool; no upload
Chair uploads slides, assigns to agenda item. Doesn¹t have to be 1:1
slide:agenda item.
Camera view
As MeetEcho does now
Slides Pane
Displays slides locally and remotely
Insert slide # into Etherpad as advanced?
Queue Pane
Same as participant view, but with a ³close the queue² function

Participant View
Agenda Pane
Display agenda, with clock. Clock turns yellow with 2 minutes remaining,
red with 0 time remaining.
Participants can click on draft or materials links.
Etherpad Pane
Pre-populated with Agenda, including materials links.
Since it¹s a pane in the Participant View panel, anyone can correct the
notes or spelling of their name.
Slides Pane
Displays slide view
Jabber Pane
Queue Pane or Control (maybe integrated with Jabber?)
Current speaker, and people in queue
Add Myself to Queue
Insert Myself into Queue to respond to current speaker.

Lee


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