Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk about remote hubs, local communities, etc?
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Fri, 14 July 2017 11:05 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk about remote hubs, local communities, etc?
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For someone like me who has not kept track of what technology is exactly used for remote hubs, whats the best URL to catch up ? Eg: For the use-cases discussed on this thread such as developing world hubs whee i guess the issue is not only ability not to travel but also inability to have individual remote participant HW/network connection, i can't quute see how the first instance of a remote hub should need to be anything different than a single remote participant hardware ("notebook") in a room, connected to projector and noise cancelling speakerphone and a user acting as the remote hub admin in front of it managing requests for comments from other participants in the room. Aka: nothing that looks different to the WG chair than an individual remote participant called "Room Foobar in Faraway Town". Cheers Toerless Disclaimer: Its much easier to have an opinion if you do not understand the problem. On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 12:13:22AM -0400, Joly MacFie wrote: > Just on a side note. ICANN recently bailed on remote hubs. > > https://www.icann.org/news/blog/icann-discontinues-remote-hubs-at-public-meetings > > Basically their problem was they tried interactive hubs and 1) it was two > much work at center 2) remote hubs are technically not so easy for non a/v > people to handle 3) attendance was not what they had hoped. > > Myself, I think that individual remote participation is usually a better > experience in terms of interactive, except in some connection challenged > locations. However like the meetings themselves, a hub's value is very > much in the f2f 'hallway' discussions. > > ICANN's solution is to organize post event 'readouts' in remote locations, > where presumably the f2f factor can be sustained. > > j > > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Christian O'Flaherty <oflaherty@isoc.org> > wrote: > > > I'm interested and I'll be available on Friday's breakfast > > > > Sent from Phone > > > > On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > And it turns out that Thurs breakfast isn't open. My apologies for the > > suggested conflict. > > > > Monday or Friday breakfast are possible as are Mon or Thurs lunch for me. > > First, let's see who is interested and see if any of those times work. > > > > Regards, > > Alia > > > > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Is there interest in getting together at IETF 99 to discuss remote hubs > >> and local communities and related activities? > >> > >> For a time, I'd suggest the Thurs morning breakfast slot - 8am to 9:15am. > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> Alia > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > NOTE WELL: This list operates according to > > http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html. > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vmeet > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NOTE WELL: This list operates according to > > http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html. > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vmeet > > > > > > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast > -------------------------------------------------------------- > - > _______________________________________________ > NOTE WELL: This list operates according to > http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html. > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vmeet
- [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk about … Alia Atlas
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… Alia Atlas
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… Christian O'Flaherty
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… Joly MacFie
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… Alia Atlas
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… Nalini J Elkins
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… John C Klensin
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… Nalini J Elkins
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… John C Klensin
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… Nalini J Elkins
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… Joly MacFie
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… John C Klensin
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… John C Klensin
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… John C Klensin
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… Lee Howard
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… John C Klensin
- Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk ab… Lee Howard