Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk about remote hubs, local communities, etc?

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Fri, 14 July 2017 11:05 UTC

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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 13:05:30 +0200
From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>
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Subject: Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk about remote hubs, local communities, etc?
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For someone like me who has not kept track of what technology is exactly
used for remote hubs, whats the best URL to catch up ?

Eg: For the use-cases discussed on this thread such as developing world
hubs whee i guess the issue is not only ability not to travel but also inability to
have individual remote participant HW/network connection, i can't quute see how
the first instance of a remote hub should need to be anything different than a
single remote participant hardware ("notebook") in a room, connected to projector
and noise cancelling speakerphone and a user acting as the remote hub admin in
front of it managing requests for comments from other participants in the room.
Aka: nothing that looks different to the WG chair than an individual remote
participant called "Room Foobar in Faraway Town".

Cheers
    Toerless

Disclaimer: Its much easier to have an opinion if you do not understand the problem.

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 12:13:22AM -0400, Joly MacFie wrote:
> Just on a side note. ICANN recently bailed on remote hubs.
> 
> https://www.icann.org/news/blog/icann-discontinues-remote-hubs-at-public-meetings
> 
> Basically their problem was they tried interactive hubs and 1) it was two
> much work at center  2) remote hubs are technically not so easy for non a/v
> people to handle 3) attendance was not what they had hoped.
> 
> Myself, I think that individual remote participation is usually a better
> experience in terms of interactive, except in some connection challenged
> locations. However like the meetings themselves, a  hub's value is very
> much in the f2f 'hallway' discussions.
> 
> ICANN's solution is to organize post event 'readouts' in remote locations,
> where presumably the f2f factor can be sustained.
> 
> j
> 
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Christian O'Flaherty <oflaherty@isoc.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > I'm interested and I'll be available on Friday's breakfast
> >
> > Sent from Phone
> >
> > On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > And it turns out that Thurs breakfast isn't open.  My apologies for the
> > suggested conflict.
> >
> > Monday or Friday breakfast are possible as are Mon or Thurs lunch for me.
> > First, let's see who is interested and see if any of those times work.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alia
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Is there interest in getting together at IETF 99 to discuss remote hubs
> >> and local communities and related activities?
> >>
> >> For a time, I'd suggest the Thurs morning breakfast slot - 8am to 9:15am.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >> Alia
> >>
> >>
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