Re: [vmeet] Comments on today's vMeet webex session
SM <sm@resistor.net> Sat, 25 April 2009 10:49 UTC
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 03:29:46 -0700
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Subject: Re: [vmeet] Comments on today's vMeet webex session
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At 10:56 24-04-2009, Dave CROCKER wrote: >A vigorous round of thanks to Eliot Lear for setting this up, as >well as patiently demonstrating and explaining Webex features. As >he noted, he's not part of the Webex product team but rather is an >extended user. I think this made his comments less canned and more >salient and maybe more candid. Thanks to Eliot for the Webex demonstration. As background information, I'll mention that I have used Webex to follow the plenary and small meetings. I have also used Marratech for small meetings. >It was noted that this was a strictly virtual meeting, with no >face-to-face room component. Hence, it was felt that this probably >more like an online-only interim meeting than a face-to-face. My >own reaction about this assessment is mixed: Eliot noted that the >pattern of contribution actually matched some kinds of face-to-face >working group meetings, and I agree. While it's certainly true that >a mixed f2f/remote meeting has its own dynamics, I think that this >all-virtual session felt quite a bit like smaller, collaborative f2f >wg meetings. I agree with Eliot's assessment about the pattern of contribution. In this meeting, most of the participants knew each other. That influences the dynamics of the meeting. There was little back room chatter during this meeting. When we listen to audio, we cannot always tell who is speaking. We had a visual cue during the meeting as all the participants were remote. I did not have any problem following Dave and Eliot. The audio was somewhat low for some of the participants but I could still understand what they were saying. My phone call dropped around the 90 minute mark. It may be due to a time limit on the call duration. During IETF meetings, I can usually refer to the Jabber as I get back and catch up with important points I missed. I'll qualify the experiment as a success. That's not always the case as I have experienced breaks in the audio feed or the Jabber going down when I follow meetings remotely. Bandwidth on the local side was not an issue for this meeting but it can be when the audio feed is high bandwidth. The loss of control over the workspace can be confusing at first. If a participant is not familiar with the tool being used, he/she may feel like exploring it to find his/her way around. I'll list some points: - the audio worked - I could tell who was speaking (map a voice to a name through the tool) - I could see the slides clearly and I did not have to identify which slide was being discussed. I think that those are the basics for a virtual meeting. For first time users, I suggest connecting earlier as setting up the (Java) software can take some time or you can encounter problems. Regards, -sm
- [vmeet] Comments on today's vMeet webex session Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] Comments on today's vMeet webex sessi… Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] Comments on today's vMeet webex sessi… Brian Rosen
- Re: [vmeet] Comments on today's vMeet webex sessi… Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] Audio echo Henning Schulzrinne
- [vmeet] Best Practices Fred Baker
- Re: [vmeet] Audio echo Douglas Otis
- Re: [vmeet] Comments on today's vMeet webex sessi… SM
- Re: [vmeet] Best Practices Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] Comments on today's vMeet webex sessi… Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [vmeet] Comments on today's vMeet webex sessi… Eliot Lear
- [vmeet] Remote Visual Presentation for IETF Stock… Doug Otis