Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment
Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Fri, 17 April 2009 14:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment
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Cisco has donated WebEx to the IETF. The only cost to a participant should be associated with dial-in phone charges if the participant cannot use VoIP or Skype or the US/Canada 1-800 number. Russ At 10:01 PM 4/16/2009, Melinda Shore wrote: >Doug Otis wrote: >>WebEx is no different from the meeting rooms needed to conduct >>meetings and appears to support a wide range of clients. > >It is different, but like those other things it isn't free. >Which brings up a question. > >Right now it costs individual participants money to >attend in person - registration fees, travel costs, >hotels, etc. But remote partipation costs are picked >up by the organization, which pays for audio streaming >and to provide Jabber server maintenance. I've certainly >taken advantage of the free stuff and appreciated it a >lot, and I think it helps keep the IETF relatively >open. Is free remote participation something that the >organization wants to preserve? > >Melinda >_______________________________________________ >NOTE WELL: This list operates according to >http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html. >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vmeet
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Brian Rosen
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Thomas Narten
- [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Dave CROCKER
- [vmeet] Oops -- Re: Apr 23^H^H24 webex group expe… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] Oops -- Re: Apr 23^H^H24 webex group … John Buford
- Re: [vmeet] Oops -- Re: Apr 23^H^H24 webex group … Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] Oops -- Re: Apr 23^H^H24 webex group … joel jaeggli
- Re: [vmeet] Oops -- Re: Apr 23^H^H24 webex group … Eliot Lear
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment joel jaeggli
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Melinda Shore
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Russ Housley
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Peter Saint-Andre
- [vmeet] TOOL: Yuuguu - screen sharing and instant… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: Yuuguu - screen sharing and ins… Henning Schulzrinne
- [vmeet] TOOL: GoToMeeting Dave CROCKER
- [vmeet] TOOL: webex group experiment Dave CROCKER
- [vmeet] TOOL: Yugma Dave CROCKER
- [vmeet] TOOL: DimDim Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: DimDim Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: webex group experiment Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: GoToMeeting Simon Josefsson
- [vmeet] TOOL: Adobe Connect Dave CROCKER
- [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: DimDim joel jaeggli
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: Adobe Connect joel jaeggli
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: Adobe Connect Eliot Lear
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Russ Housley
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Simon Josefsson
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Brian Rosen
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Brian Rosen
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Brian Rosen
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: Adobe Connect Thomas Narten