Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters
"HANSEN, TONY L" <tony@att.com> Mon, 04 April 2016 23:31 UTC
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From: "HANSEN, TONY L" <tony@att.com>
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Subject: Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters
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Some comments from my remote experiences today. First off, meetecho is a VAST improvement over how remote access used to be, and it's getting better every meeting. Thanks!!! However, there's always room for improvement: I agree with Michael. Right now if you double click on the video, it fills in the area where the slides were and covers large amounts of space and the slides disappear. I too would like to (once in a while) SWAP the video and slides. When there's a remote speaker, the same issue can arise. That is, move the slides up to where the list of video streams are currently shown and move that video image into the space where the slides normally are. One way to do this would be have a two-headed arrow below each item in that top row. Click it and the item swaps position with the large display. Any of the items could then fill the large area or be shown in small while not in the large area. Another improvement: there don't seem to be tooltips over the icons on the right side to explain what they do. I tried clicking some of them, but it wasn't always evident what they were supposed to do. One time, I lost all sight of the slides and no matter what I tried, I couldn't get back to the slides. I wound up doing a refresh on the browser to restore things. Another improvement: the remembered name and registration number are on a per-room basis, because the java code is using a session object stored on the server and there is a server per room. While this is certainly an improvement over previous meetings where meetecho never seemed to remember anything, I do wish meetecho had instead used a cookie shared across all of the rooms to encode that information. If Meetecho wants to put up an improved version in beta during the meeting to try out any improvements, I'm willing to participate. Thanks Meetecho! Tony On 4/4/16, 5:28 PM, "vmeet on behalf of Michael Richardson" <vmeet-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote: > >I did the same presentation twice today in two WGs (to deal with cross-WG >issues). > >Things that I would like to have: > 1) big video with small slides. > the choices are > - big slides and many video, or > - video fills entire screen, no slides. > > 2) a camera pointed at the room, or at least the question-microphone. > >Basically, I'd like to see the room I'm speaking to... the chairs table is >boring, and too far away for me to see if they have "confused" looks on >their faces...
- [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters Michael Richardson
- Re: [vmeet] [Tools-discuss] meetecho for remote p… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [vmeet] [Tools-discuss] meetecho for remote p… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [vmeet] [Tools-discuss] meetecho for remote p… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [vmeet] [Tools-discuss] meetecho for remote p… Simon Pietro Romano
- Re: [vmeet] [Tools-discuss] meetecho for remote p… Simon Pietro Romano
- Re: [vmeet] [Tools-discuss] meetecho for remote p… joel jaeggli
- Re: [vmeet] [Tools-discuss] meetecho for remote p… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [vmeet] [Tools-discuss] meetecho for remote p… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters Meetecho IETF support
- Re: [vmeet] [Tools-discuss] meetecho for remote p… Meetecho IETF support
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters Meetecho IETF support
- Re: [vmeet] [Tools-discuss] meetecho for remote p… Michael Richardson
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters Meetecho IETF support
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters Michael Richardson
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters Ray Pelletier
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters Meetecho IETF support
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters John C Klensin
- Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters Simon Pietro Romano