Re: [vmeet] FRAME: Pre-meeting presentations
John Leslie <john@jlc.net> Fri, 17 April 2009 15:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [vmeet] FRAME: Pre-meeting presentations
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Dave CROCKER <dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote: > John Leslie wrote: > >> But what about the presentations which take up so much of our F2F >> time at IETF weeks? > > This might be what you meant, but even if it isn't, a 'mode' worth > considering is to have full presentations (slides and voice) uploaded 1+ > days before a meeting, so that meeting time is only for discussion. > > So, presentations become asynchronous, canned packages that can be > seen/heard any time. This would, IMHO, be valuable result. > This makes it considerably easier to force meeting time to be used only > for problem-solving. Currently, most WGCs: - request a slot long enough to cover what they guess will be needed; - publish a call for presentations; - receive requests/suggestions; - allocate the meeting time by presentation length; - try to hold folks to the allocated time; - close off the question line when running over; and - take the occasional hum. It seems like an interesting experiment to have presenters drone on as long as they "need" for a recording which participants may choose to listen and watch at their own pace, with Working Group meeting time limited to discussions. There are, of course, some presentations which make no effort to cover the draft as a whole -- instead detailing the open issues. That, IMHO, is a better use of WG meeting time; but even that could probably benefit from being available a day earlier. The practical side of this is that the "last minute" seems to be the only effective driver for finishing presentations. (It's quite common to see folks in one session preparing their slides for the next!) So one must ask, "How would WGCs effectively enforce a 'last minute' 24 hours earlier?" > It has the added benefit of aiding comprehension be non-native English > listeners. :^) -- John Leslie <john@jlc.net>
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