Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment
Doug Otis <doug.mtview@gmail.com> Thu, 16 April 2009 22:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment
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On Apr 16, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Thomas Narten wrote: > I've never used WebEx, but just going to the web page, I see I can > sign up for a 14-day trial. Then I presumably have to pay $$. Or, > someone has to pay to run the server, and then there is some limited > number of clients that can connect. > > Can someone explain please explain the licensing model with WebEx? > And how use of this technology by the IETF will preserve the > expected openness where everyone/anyone can participate? The IETF could meet in public squares, but one might assume there is no problem meeting in conference centers where fees are also required. To afford the productivity benefit of rooms, chairs, walls, lights, projectors, network access, etc. members must individually offset a portion of these meeting related fees. WebEx is no different from the meeting rooms needed to conduct meetings and appears to support a wide range of clients. The breath of support that WebEx offers represents an investment in remote meeting services on par with running brick and mortar conference centers. Once members become familiar with remote meeting services, an effort might be undertaken to explore suitable suites of applications that could act as alternatives. After all, the IETF should have the synergy for such an effort. Nevertheless, don't expect replacements offering similar productivity will not also demand similar additional resources. As such, remote participation aided by remote meeting services beyond streaming audio- feeds and jabber sessions is likely to necessitate minor offset fees. For many, these remote participation fees will be in lieu of substantial air and hotel arrangements, and lost time due to traveling. -Doug
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Brian Rosen
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Thomas Narten
- [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Dave CROCKER
- [vmeet] Oops -- Re: Apr 23^H^H24 webex group expe… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] Oops -- Re: Apr 23^H^H24 webex group … John Buford
- Re: [vmeet] Oops -- Re: Apr 23^H^H24 webex group … Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] Oops -- Re: Apr 23^H^H24 webex group … joel jaeggli
- Re: [vmeet] Oops -- Re: Apr 23^H^H24 webex group … Eliot Lear
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment joel jaeggli
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Melinda Shore
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Russ Housley
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Peter Saint-Andre
- [vmeet] TOOL: Yuuguu - screen sharing and instant… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: Yuuguu - screen sharing and ins… Henning Schulzrinne
- [vmeet] TOOL: GoToMeeting Dave CROCKER
- [vmeet] TOOL: webex group experiment Dave CROCKER
- [vmeet] TOOL: Yugma Dave CROCKER
- [vmeet] TOOL: DimDim Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: DimDim Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: webex group experiment Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: GoToMeeting Simon Josefsson
- [vmeet] TOOL: Adobe Connect Dave CROCKER
- [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: DimDim joel jaeggli
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: Adobe Connect joel jaeggli
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: Adobe Connect Eliot Lear
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Russ Housley
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [vmeet] Apr 23: webex group experiment Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Simon Josefsson
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Brian Rosen
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Brian Rosen
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Brian Rosen
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] PLAN: Formulating a workplan for vMeet Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [vmeet] TOOL: Adobe Connect Thomas Narten