Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter

Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@nomountain.net> Tue, 03 June 2014 22:36 UTC

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On 6/3/14 2:23 PM, Diego R. Lopez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It looks really good to me, Ning!
> 
> I am just wondering whether we could give state synchronization a 
> special category (of being "out of scope in this phase" or similar) 
> because I think it is a extremely relevant issue.

This is an extremely contested question.  It seems appropriate to me
to view vnfpool as a layered mechanism, where a layer handling the
reliability/redundancy mechanism may carry other traffic, but that
traffic is opaque to the pooling mechanism.  That traffic might
include service state.  But, this is my second go-'round on state
transfer (third, if you include sami, the first one being rserpool
itself) and I really think it's best to be left out of scope with
no specific future plans for the time being, but to allow a generic
transport mechanism in the pooling traffic.

Melinda


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