Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter
"Susan Hares" <shares@ndzh.com> Thu, 05 June 2014 21:19 UTC
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Subject: Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter
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Melinda: If it is a layer 9 issue (politics) to get the work started, then it out of scope. I really just want to get going on this work. Sue -----Original Message----- From: vnfpool [mailto:vnfpool-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Shore Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 5:03 PM To: vnfpool@ietf.org Subject: Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter On 6/5/14 12:44 PM, Susan Hares wrote: > Melinda: > > If we leave it scope for this phase, but open for some future phase I > think it will help the discussion. This will allows to build toward this phase. > Of course, I'm coming from the router/SDN platform view point. I think it will help among people who'd like to use it but hurt us politically, to be frank - this is an issue that always raises a lot of ire in the quarter of the IETF in which we're now operating. We'd also be faced with the difficult of answering the question of why a vendor would want a customer to be able to fail, say, their firewall over to another vendor's firewall. The obvious answer to that is that customers want it, but that doesn't mean that vendors will implement that kind of mechanism, and when we've done polls about this kind of thing we haven't been able to get any vendor to say they'd do it. So, if people really want to include text saying that this is future work, by all means do so but do so with knowledge of how discussions have gone in the very recent past. And to be clear, to say that it's out of scope means that it's out of scope *now* - as we know all decisions may be revisited in the future. Melinda -- Melinda Shore No Mountain Software melinda.shore@nomountain.net "Software longa, hardware brevis." _______________________________________________ vnfpool mailing list vnfpool@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vnfpool
- [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Zongning
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Diego R. Lopez
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Melinda Shore
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter karagian
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Linda Dunbar
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter King, Daniel
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Melinda Shore
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Diego R. Lopez
- [vnfpool] 答复: new VNFPool draft charter Zongning
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Susan Hares
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Susan Hares
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Susan Hares
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Melinda Shore
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Susan Hares
- [vnfpool] 答复: new VNFPool draft charter Zongning
- [vnfpool] 答复: new VNFPool draft charter Zongning
- Re: [vnfpool] 答复: new VNFPool draft charter Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Zu Qiang
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter N.Leymann
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Zu Qiang
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Melinda Shore
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Zu Qiang
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Melinda Shore
- [vnfpool] 答复: new VNFPool draft charter Zongning
- [vnfpool] 答复: new VNFPool draft charter Zongning
- [vnfpool] 答复: new VNFPool draft charter Zongning
- [vnfpool] 答复: 答复: new VNFPool draft charter Zongning
- Re: [vnfpool] 答复: new VNFPool draft charter Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [vnfpool] new VNFPool draft charter Zu Qiang
- [vnfpool] 答复: new VNFPool draft charter Zongning