Re: [vnfpool] Overlap with SFC?

Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com> Wed, 22 January 2014 05:05 UTC

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From: Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>
To: Zongning <zongning@huawei.com>, Zongning <zongning@huawei.com>, "adrian@olddog.co.uk" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, "vnfpool@ietf.org" <vnfpool@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [vnfpool] Overlap with SFC?
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My Understanding is 
in service chain, when a service node is down, what SFC is doing is to bypass this service node while
What nfvpool is doing is to replace the failing one with the new service node which provide the same functionality.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Regards!
-Qin
-----Original Message-----
From: vnfpool [mailto:vnfpool-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Zongning
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:42 AM
To: Zongning; adrian@olddog.co.uk; vnfpool@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [vnfpool] Overlap with SFC?

Sorry, item 1) is obviously not finished. :-)

1) SFC targets on steering packets among service function nodes. vnfpool focuses on redundancy for service nodes, e.g., selecting standby nodes, handling nodes transition/failure cases, without caring about how to construct the data path.

Again, my fault.

-Ning

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zongning
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:34 AM
> To: 'adrian@olddog.co.uk'; vnfpool@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [vnfpool] Overlap with SFC?
> 
> Hi, Adrian,
> 
> Thanks for raising this question. Actually vnfpool folks have been discussing this
> question a lot since the very beginning of this work.
> 
> We believe vnfpool and SFC are independent and complementary mainly due to
> the below reasons:
> 1) SFC targets on steering packets among service function nodes. vnfpool
> focuses on redundancy for service nodes, e.g., selecting standby nodes,
> handling nodes transition/failure cases, without caring how
> 2) vnfpool manager in our proposal could interact with SFC control entity to: 1)
> advertise redundant service nodes; 2) notify status of redundant nodes when
> required; 3) receive resiliency requirements from SFC control entity (if any); and
> so on.
> 3) vnfpool is not only used in "chained service nodes", but applicable to other
> cases where service nodes are not necessarily sequentially connected.
> 
> I appreciate any further feedback and advice from you or IESG, as I believe
> these feedback will greatly improve the quality of our proposed charter.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Ning
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vnfpool [mailto:vnfpool-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:57 AM
> > To: vnfpool@ietf.org
> > Subject: [vnfpool] Overlap with SFC?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The IESG is looking at the BoF requests for London, and a question came up
> on
> > the overlap between the proposal here and items 4 and 5 in the SFC Charter.
> >
> > I think it would be valuable if you could discuss the overlap and the
> > interaction between the two efforts so that there is a clear view.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Adrian
> >
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