Re: [vnfpool] Overlap with SFC?
Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com> Wed, 22 January 2014 04:39 UTC
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From: Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>
To: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>, Zongning <zongning@huawei.com>, "'King, Daniel'" <d.king@lancaster.ac.uk>, 'Melinda Shore' <melinda.shore@nomountain.net>, "adrian@olddog.co.uk" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
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Sue: I agree with your comment. Regards! -Qin -----Original Message----- From: vnfpool [mailto:vnfpool-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:15 AM To: Zongning; 'King, Daniel'; 'Melinda Shore'; adrian@olddog.co.uk Cc: vnfpool@ietf.org Subject: Re: [vnfpool] Overlap with SFC? Ning: Therefore, some of the mechanisms may be in parallel or serial. Shall I add comments in my use cases to indicate when VNF functions are parallel or serial? Sue -----Original Message----- From: vnfpool [mailto:vnfpool-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Zongning Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:57 PM To: King, Daniel; Melinda Shore; adrian@olddog.co.uk Cc: vnfpool@ietf.org Subject: Re: [vnfpool] Overlap with SFC? Hi, Dan and Melinda, Thanks for your reply. Both of you are right in that our proposal here is narrowly focused on redundancy mechanism for VNF. This goal is basically complementary to SFC charter. Another point I want to add is that vnfpool is not only used in "chained service nodes", but applicable to other cases where service nodes are not necessarily sequentially connected. -Ning > -----Original Message----- > From: vnfpool [mailto:vnfpool-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of King, > Daniel > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:24 AM > To: Melinda Shore; adrian@olddog.co.uk > Cc: vnfpool@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [vnfpool] Overlap with SFC? > > Hi Again, > > Thanks Melinda, you are far more succinct than I have been. However, > seeing as we may have some additional interest in the vnfpool work, it > may be worth summarizing our problem space and some of our discussion > thus far for anyone peeking at the list for the first time: > > A Virtualized Network Function (VNF) (e.g. vBRAS vFirewall, > vLoadbalancer) provides the equivalent function as a dedicated > hardware platform. These VNF instances are typically instantiated in > clusters running on general purpose servers via a variety of > virtualization platforms. As per discussions within the SFC Working > Group (WG), a user/network service is typically realized by a chain of > VNFs (also known as a VNF Forwarding Graph -VNFG) to deliver function > in a deterministic sequence. Whereas SFC WG is tasked with > investigating and documenting SFC architecture, and SFC protocol > mechanisms (new or extensions to existing solutions) in order to > encapsulate and steer traffic, and convey SFC and Service Function Path (SFP) information to function nodes, both virtual and physical. > > The vnfpool list was initiated to investigate the resilience > requirements and solutions for virtual network functions, running as > single, or pools (sets) of VNFs. So clearly some of the vnfpool work > may be complimentary to the SFC WG, but I think the majority of work > will be in parallel to the SFC WG. Initially this list has scoped the > vnfpool work into a problem statement, use cases, architecture and > signalling to deploy and manage VNF pool resilience (reliability, redundancy, availability, failover), these discussions have included: > > - Signalling between VNF pools for transition (e.g. state change, > scaling, moving) management, notification, backup, performance > monitoring and announcements; > > - Service state management (e.g. synchronizing method, state data > format, location and mechanism to access state data); > > - Obtaining underlying network information (e.g., this is where we > expect cooperation with existing working groups - ALTO, I2RS); > > - Mechanisms for instance deployment reflecting resilience requirements (e.g. > distribution of instances across different VMs or hypervisors); > > - Explore and document requirements for reliable transport of traffic > and security mechanisms between VNF pools, and reliable and secure > control of VNF pools. > > We have established that for some use cases (Virtualisation of Mobile > Core Network and IMS (vEPC & vIMS), Virtualisation of the Home > Environment (vHome), Virtualisation of Content Distribution Network > (vCDN)) there will also be specific resilience requirements, when > relevant to the SFC WG, i.e., traffic steering between (virtual) > network function nodes, these application specific requirements may > require co-operation (via requirements or problem statement I-Ds between vnfpool and SFC WG). > > Br, Dan. > > -----Original Message----- > From: vnfpool [mailto:vnfpool-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Melinda > Shore > Sent: 21 January 2014 18:39 > To: adrian@olddog.co.uk > Cc: vnfpool@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [vnfpool] Overlap with SFC? > > Hi, Adrian: > > The vnfpool proposal is quite narrowly focused on redundancy > mechanisms for virtualized network functions. > > Melinda > > > -- > Melinda Shore > No Mountain Software > melinda.shore@nomountain.net > > "Software longa, hardware brevis." > _______________________________________________ > vnfpool mailing list > vnfpool@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vnfpool > _______________________________________________ > vnfpool mailing list > vnfpool@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vnfpool _______________________________________________ vnfpool mailing list vnfpool@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vnfpool _______________________________________________ vnfpool mailing list vnfpool@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vnfpool
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