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"Grassi, Paul A. (Fed)" <paul.grassi@nist.gov> Fri, 24 November 2017 03:27 UTC

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From: "Grassi, Paul A. (Fed)" <paul.grassi@nist.gov>
To: Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com>
CC: Leif Johansson <leifj@sunet.se>, John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com>, "vot@ietf.org" <vot@ietf.org>, Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu>
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Fine. But as I have said you want a unicorn when we just want a car that can drive in the same Lane as SAML. Your unicorn is coming, as the phases of igov include international agreement on vot vectors/values and attribute metadata to assert 'assurance' of attributes that are unrelated to proofing.

I happy for your contribution don't take unicorn comment poorly. Just a quick post turkey dinner way of making a point. Happy US Thanksgiving.

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On Nov 23, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com<mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com>> wrote:

The issue i am concerned about then is that by leaving out the issue of claims than the vot is incomplete and would require a separate statement.

This leads to a lot of interop and complexity problems down the road.  Which value wins etc given they would overlap.

The vot does not have to address it now but it should have the capability to do so (that may not be possible without a model).

This is a lot like when we found loa was actually multi dimensional and it had to dramatically change.  IAL falls into the same problem.

Phil

On Nov 23, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Leif Johansson <leifj@sunet.se<mailto:leifj@sunet.se>> wrote:

On 2017-11-23 21:23, John Bradley wrote:
Authors,

As part of the write-up for the Vectors of trust document, we need an
IPR disclosure from all of you.

Are you aware of any IPR related to the following VOT document?

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John B.

I am not.

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