Re: [VRRP] Graceful Failover for VRRP

"Anurag Kothari (ankothar)" <ankothar@cisco.com> Sat, 03 August 2013 19:16 UTC

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From: "Anurag Kothari (ankothar)" <ankothar@cisco.com>
To: "Celer, Alicja (Alicja)" <aceler@avaya.com>, "adrian@olddog.co.uk" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, "vrrp@ietf.org" <vrrp@ietf.org>
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Hello Alicja

I went through your draft:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-celer-vrrp-ext-00

and my draft is totally and fundamentally different from yours.

Please let me know if it is some other draft of your that you are referring to or if I am missing something here.

Thanks
-Anurag 

-----Original Message-----
From: Anurag Kothari (ankothar) 
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:37 PM
To: 'Celer, Alicja (Alicja)'; adrian@olddog.co.uk; vrrp@ietf.org
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Subject: RE: Graceful Failover for VRRP

Hello Alicja

Sorry, I was not aware of your draft. I did a quick search and I suppose you are referring to:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-celer-vrrp-ext-00

Please let me know if it is otherwise.

I would definitely go through it and get back to you; If it is the same idea we can surely try to converge on a solution.

Thanks
-Anurag

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From: Celer, Alicja (Alicja) [mailto:aceler@avaya.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:21 PM
To: Anurag Kothari (ankothar); adrian@olddog.co.uk; vrrp@ietf.org
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Subject: RE: Graceful Failover for VRRP

Hi Anurag,

I've posted a draft addressing a similar issue and proposing a similar solution in 1999. Did you get a chance to review it?  If not, would you like a copy maybe we converge on a solution? 

kind regar ds,
Alicja
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From: vrrp-bounces@ietf.org [vrrp-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Anurag Kothari (ankothar) [ankothar@cisco.com]
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 8:06 PM
To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; vrrp@ietf.org
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Subject: [VRRP] Graceful Failover for VRRP

Hi

I have submitted the following I-D on this idea:

TXT: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kothari-vrrp-graceful-failover-00.txt
HTML: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kothari-vrrp-graceful-failover-00

Please review and provide feedback.

Thanks
-Anurag

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From: vrrp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:vrrp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:12 PM
To: vrrp@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [VRRP] Proposal for Maintenance Event for VRRP [RFC-5798]

Hi,

If you are wondering how to progress this in the IETF, the answer is...

- write an I-D
- discuss it (here)
- polish it
- ask me to sponsor it for publication as an RFC.

Cheers,
Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: vrrp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:vrrp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf 
> Of Anurag Kothari (ankothar)
> Sent: 04 March 2013 23:43
> To: sreenatha; vrrp@ietf.org
> Cc: fhrp-team(mailer list)
> Subject: Re: [VRRP] Proposal for Maintenance Event for VRRP [RFC-5798]
>
> Hi Sreenatha
>
> If you mean "if I am not wrong" then yes what you have said below is correct.
>
> Also I believe the objective (particularly in case of time sensitive
application) is to
> avoid any unnecessary switch overs; as already suggested earlier let's 
> call
this a
> "Change Event" instead of "Maintenance Event". The "Change Event"
> would be triggered by change in one of the following parameters of the VRRP Packet :
>
> 1) Priority (Section 5.2.4. of RFC-5798)
> 2) Max Adver Int (Section 5.2.7. of RFC-5798)
>
> And possibly:
>
> 3) IPvX Address(es) (Section 5.2.9.  of RFC-5798)
>
> The "Change Event" would only be handled in Master State and ignored 
> in other state as the VRRP Packets are only supposed to be sent by the Master.
>
> So to rephrase the proposal:
>
>     - If a Change event is received, then:
>
>     + Send an ADVERTISEMENT
>
>     + Reset the Adver_Timer to Advertisement_Interval
>
>     -endif // Change recv
>
> To cover the failover scenario (in the absence of preemption) Priority 
> = 0
will now
> have to be allowed along with the previously discussed modifications 
> to avoid
a
> storm of Priority = 0 Advertisements from two masters.
>
> Please Share your thoughts.
>
> Thanks
> -Anurag
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sreenatha [mailto:sreenatha.setty@ibtechnology.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:17 AM
> To: Anurag Kothari (ankothar)
> Cc: vrrp@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Proposal for Maintenance Event for VRRP [RFC-5798]
>
> Hi Anurag,
>      Thanks for clarification.
>
>       If i am wrong, user is allowed to configure Priority value as 
> zero(i.e., Maintenance_Event), priority value will be changed. And 
> handling of the Maintenance_Event is done only in Master state and 
> ignored in Backup and Init state.
>
> Thanks,
> Sreenatha
>
> On 03/01/2013 08:31 PM, Anurag Kothari (ankothar) wrote:
> > Hi Sreenatha
> >
> > I don't think we need to define a "Maintenance_Event" when the 
> > router is in
> either Init or Backup State. The intention of the "Maintenance_Event"
> is to trigger a failover from "Master" to a "Backup" router as soon as 
> possible (especially when preemption is not configured).
> >
> > But if you are asking if priority = 0 should be allowed (either by 
> > user
> configuration or dynamically) when the router is in "Init" or "Backup"
> state
then I
> think the answer should be yes, It should be treated just like any 
> other
change in
> priority is treated when the router is in these states.
> >
> > Please let me know if I am missing something.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Anurag
> >
> >
>
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