Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN independent virtual worlds or not
Barry Leiba <barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com> Mon, 20 September 2010 20:57 UTC
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This is a comment on a couple of things that Meadhbh said, but is directed at everyone; several people have, at one time or another, said similar things. I want to make two points about the IETF clear: > can i just ask why you're interested in VWRAP? > > OMF has publicly stated it is dropping support for VWARP in favor of Despite that Jonathan has answered this, a separate point is that it's not an appropriate question here. Everyone, please remember that IETF participants officially participate as *individuals*. That means that participants have interest in the protocols and technology, independent of the interests of the organizations they work for. It's perfectly fine to have a respectful conversation about that sort of thing off-list with a participant. But as far as this working group is concerned, each participant has his/her/its own technical views, and we don't question why someone cares about this or that protocol because we don't think it's within the person's job description. The same goes for this sort of comment: > i know > you don't understand this since you're not a software developer, but > ultimately someone has to write code. and that code will The point of this was to say the part that begins with "ultimately", and it could -- and should -- have been said without the demeaning bit that precedes it, whether or not it was *meant* to be demeaning. We like running code, but we don't demand nor expect every participant to be one who writes the code. Please, let's not make assumptions about people's job descriptions, spare-time interests, or motivations. Address the technical points, and that should be enough to say what needs to be said. Thanks, all. Barry, as chair
- [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN indepe… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Mike Dickson
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Jonathan Freedman
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Hurliman, John
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Cristina Videira Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Jonathan Freedman
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Joshua Bell
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… kevin.tweedy
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Jonathan Freedman
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Barry Leiba
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Barry Leiba
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Hurliman, John
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Kari Lippert
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Hurliman, John
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Hurliman, John
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Cristina Videira Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… David W Levine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Cristina Videira Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Cristina Videira Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick