Re: [vwrap] VWRAP, after discussion with the Area Director

Peter Saint-Andre <> Wed, 11 May 2011 02:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [vwrap] VWRAP, after discussion with the Area Director
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Thanks, Barry.

Speaking as the Area Director responsible for the VWRAP WG, I'd like to
make it fully clear that we plan to proceed as follows:

1. Close the working group in its current instantiation

2. Keep the mailing list open

3. Continue discussions on the list

The hope is that folks here can converge on a new direction, leading to
formation of a new working group, or at least to publication of
individual Internet-Drafts that provide a framwork for future efforts.


On 5/10/11 7:12 PM, Barry Leiba wrote:
> I'm encouraged by Morgaine's assessment of the progress the group is
> making in discussions.  I like that it's taking a broader view,
> looking toward interoperation among different virtual worlds.  The
> discussion of the technology is going in a good direction.
> Where it's going is to a very different place than what was set out in
> the VWRAP charter.  The IESG will need to re-evaluate the work when
> the group has things grounded and can propose a new charter, for the
> new direction.  They'll need to see who's invested in the new work --
> who will do the protocol design, who will take on the editing, and who
> will give it the review it needs to be a good standard.  In the
> meantime, this mailing list is the right place for the discussion to
> continue.
> The IESG will close out the current charter, and will leave the
> mailing list open.  Remember that the IETF gets most of its work done
> on mailing lists, and not all of them are associated with current
> working groups.  There won't be chairs monitoring it... which means
> that there won't be chairs bugging you about IETF process stuff, but
> also that there won't be chairs nudging you along, so be careful not
> to let that stall the work.
> I suggest that the group put its focus on converging on two initial documents:
> 1. A new introduction and overview document, laying out what
> problems/situations/scenarios you'll be addressing, how you'll go
> about it, and what things will look like in the end.  This should lead
> directly to a proposal for a new charter.
> 2. A protocol requirements document, specifying what the protocol(s)
> will have to do (and won't have to do).  This will be a strong basis
> for the protocol design, which could be done in that new working
> group.
> Please keep this going.  I hope we'll see a charter proposal for a new
> working group fairly soon.
> Barry, as chair
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