Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-intro

Meadhbh Hamrick <ohmeadhbh@gmail.com> Fri, 23 July 2010 08:09 UTC

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From: Meadhbh Hamrick <ohmeadhbh@gmail.com>
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On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Morgaine
<morgaine.dinova@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I'm a firm supporter of David's position on multiple deployment models, a
> wide range of which should be possible.  Our specifications need to make
> that flexibility clear instead of hanging on to old language that has its
> roots in the walled garden model with which we started.
>
> I'm also a firm supporter of the IETF's mission statement with regard to
> interoperability and scalability, which again places upon us a certain duty
> towards those goals in our documents.
>
> I'm trying to improve our protocols and specification on both those fronts.
>
> There is certainly nothing to fear.  Denying interoperation will always be
> possible, and trivial to accomplish.  Our task is to allow interoperation
> for those who want it.
>
>
> Morgaine.
>
>
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>
> ===================================
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> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Meadhbh Hamrick <ohmeadhbh@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> in other words... let's not start a fight over whether your model is
>> supported or not. if you write up some words that support the tourist
>> model, but don't make the fixed grid impossible, i'm all for it.
>>
>> -cheers
>> -meadhbh
>> --
>> meadhbh hamrick * it's pronounced "maeve"
>> @OhMeadhbh * http://meadhbh.org/ * OhMeadhbh@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Meadhbh Hamrick <ohmeadhbh@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > morgaine! you're frightening me!
>> >
>> > i think we should definitely support the tourist model, but please
>> > don't try to take out the bits that support fixed / locked down grids.
>> > there are many of us who will be implementing this style of VW.
>> >
>> > -cheers
>> > -meadhbh
>> > --
>> > meadhbh hamrick * it's pronounced "maeve"
>> > @OhMeadhbh * http://meadhbh.org/ * OhMeadhbh@gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Morgaine
>> > <morgaine.dinova@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >> Barry, I've been reviewing the Intro document for several days now, and
>> >> there are important issues there that will need a certain amount of
>> >> change.
>> >> I don't expect it to be very contentious (basically the old OGP
>> >> worldview
>> >> needs to be brought into line with what's already been discussed in the
>> >> group), but I will need some more days of work on it next week.
>> >>
>> >> Hopefully it won't take me too long.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Morgaine.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ====================================
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Meadhbh Hamrick <ohmeadhbh@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> i don't think there are any outstanding issues with the intro draft.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> meadhbh hamrick * it's pronounced "maeve"
>> >>> @OhMeadhbh * http://meadhbh.org/ * OhMeadhbh@gmail.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Barry Leiba
>> >>> <barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > Since there's been no discussion, yet, about "Introduction and
>> >>> > Goals"
>> >>> >   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-vwrap-intro
>> >>> > ...we should consider moving ahead with it.  To that end:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 1. Meadhbh, is there anything outstanding that you think needs to be
>> >>> > addressed?  Any specific input you need from the working group?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 2. David, can you get the IPR statement on Meadhbh's original
>> >>> > version
>> >>> >   https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1294/
>> >>> > ...updated, if it's still applicable to the WG version?  If it's not
>> >>> > still applicable, we'd need you to tell us that.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 3. Working group: please review the document and discuss any issues
>> >>> > with it.  Joshua and I will also appreciate comments saying "I've
>> >>> > reviewed it, and it's ready to go."
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Barry, as chair
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