Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-intro
Meadhbh Hamrick <ohmeadhbh@gmail.com> Fri, 23 July 2010 08:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-intro
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kk. ossm. -- meadhbh hamrick * it's pronounced "maeve" @OhMeadhbh * http://meadhbh.org/ * OhMeadhbh@gmail.com On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Morgaine <morgaine.dinova@googlemail.com> wrote: > I'm a firm supporter of David's position on multiple deployment models, a > wide range of which should be possible. Our specifications need to make > that flexibility clear instead of hanging on to old language that has its > roots in the walled garden model with which we started. > > I'm also a firm supporter of the IETF's mission statement with regard to > interoperability and scalability, which again places upon us a certain duty > towards those goals in our documents. > > I'm trying to improve our protocols and specification on both those fronts. > > There is certainly nothing to fear. Denying interoperation will always be > possible, and trivial to accomplish. Our task is to allow interoperation > for those who want it. > > > Morgaine. > > > > > =================================== > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Meadhbh Hamrick <ohmeadhbh@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> in other words... let's not start a fight over whether your model is >> supported or not. if you write up some words that support the tourist >> model, but don't make the fixed grid impossible, i'm all for it. >> >> -cheers >> -meadhbh >> -- >> meadhbh hamrick * it's pronounced "maeve" >> @OhMeadhbh * http://meadhbh.org/ * OhMeadhbh@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Meadhbh Hamrick <ohmeadhbh@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > morgaine! you're frightening me! >> > >> > i think we should definitely support the tourist model, but please >> > don't try to take out the bits that support fixed / locked down grids. >> > there are many of us who will be implementing this style of VW. >> > >> > -cheers >> > -meadhbh >> > -- >> > meadhbh hamrick * it's pronounced "maeve" >> > @OhMeadhbh * http://meadhbh.org/ * OhMeadhbh@gmail.com >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Morgaine >> > <morgaine.dinova@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> Barry, I've been reviewing the Intro document for several days now, and >> >> there are important issues there that will need a certain amount of >> >> change. >> >> I don't expect it to be very contentious (basically the old OGP >> >> worldview >> >> needs to be brought into line with what's already been discussed in the >> >> group), but I will need some more days of work on it next week. >> >> >> >> Hopefully it won't take me too long. >> >> >> >> >> >> Morgaine. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==================================== >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Meadhbh Hamrick <ohmeadhbh@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> i don't think there are any outstanding issues with the intro draft. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> meadhbh hamrick * it's pronounced "maeve" >> >>> @OhMeadhbh * http://meadhbh.org/ * OhMeadhbh@gmail.com >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Barry Leiba >> >>> <barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> > Since there's been no discussion, yet, about "Introduction and >> >>> > Goals" >> >>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-vwrap-intro >> >>> > ...we should consider moving ahead with it. To that end: >> >>> > >> >>> > 1. Meadhbh, is there anything outstanding that you think needs to be >> >>> > addressed? Any specific input you need from the working group? >> >>> > >> >>> > 2. David, can you get the IPR statement on Meadhbh's original >> >>> > version >> >>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1294/ >> >>> > ...updated, if it's still applicable to the WG version? If it's not >> >>> > still applicable, we'd need you to tell us that. >> >>> > >> >>> > 3. Working group: please review the document and discuss any issues >> >>> > with it. Joshua and I will also appreciate comments saying "I've >> >>> > reviewed it, and it's ready to go." >> >>> > >> >>> > Barry, as chair >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > vwrap mailing list >> >>> > vwrap@ietf.org >> >>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vwrap >> >>> > >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> vwrap mailing list >> >>> vwrap@ietf.org >> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vwrap >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> vwrap mailing list >> >> vwrap@ietf.org >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vwrap >> >> >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > vwrap mailing list > vwrap@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vwrap > >
- [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-intro Barry Leiba
- Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-in… Jon Freedman
- Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-in… Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Moving ahead with draft-ietf-vwrap-in… Morgaine