Re: [vwrap] Consensus? What exactly should be in the protocol

[Meadhbh Hamrick <[e-mail]>]

>>>
>>> ...or when server-side streaming goes mainstream, and being in a virtual
>>> world is as simple as running a video player plus a few JavaScript/native
>>> back channels to the server.
>>>
>>> First point is: according to the Web principles, each web application
>>> controls 100% what and how the client gets via this really powerful
>>> concept
>>> of hypermedia. It is unlikely that the world is going to adopt a standard
>>> that forces implementers to take several steps back on this kind of
>>> autonomy. The diversity is what gives service providers an edge.
>>>
>>
>> hold on there! you just gave two completely opposing examples. if i
>> have a video player that's receiving raster lines from a distant game
>> server, that's TOTALLY the opposite of a client having complete
>> control over it's hypermedia input.
>
> What? %-)
> The *server* has control, not the client. The server decides whether to
> provide a VW via video streaming, whether to send out a native piece of code
> that represents the "viewer" or whether to send JavaScript. The client
> simply accepts whatever the server sends.
>
> If the VWRAP protocol says: "servers send capabilities of assets to clients
> and clients pull the assets by invoking those capabilities and then mash it
> up and render it" you're doing very strong assumptions about the viewer;
> you're basically excluding the video player (because there is no asset data
> to pull). Point is: capabilities (or CORS) are an implementation option of
> the application. They are not the only option, and they are not fundamental
> for interoperability -- at least certainly not the asset-related
> capabilities.
>
> This was my comment to one of the sections where you go into explaining this
> mashup.
>

my point is that if you're going to depend on CORS in the client to do
app mashup, and one of the servers sends you HTML that includes a
flash plugin that only sends video of a distantly rendered SecondLife
app window, you're going to have a hard time picking apart the data
that went into composing the video by services from other servers.