Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN independent virtual worlds or not
"Hurliman, John" <john.hurliman@intel.com> Mon, 20 September 2010 21:24 UTC
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> -----Original Message----- > From: vwrap-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:vwrap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Barry Leiba > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:08 PM > To: vwrap@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN independent virtual > worlds or not > > Putting a finer point on what Joshua said: > > >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Freedman > >> <jef@openmetaverse.org> > >> wrote: > >> From what I can tell the drafts do support interoperability between > >> the same *class* of virtual world. The catch is that the language > >> needs to be significantly clearer. > > > > The group's goals are formally described in the charter: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/vwrap/charter/ > > ... which, based on previous iterations of this discussion, we > > carefully crafted to not try and nail down what a "virtual world" was > > so as not to offend those who have an investment in any particular reading > of that term. > > Indeed, and I think we are largely arguing about something we agree on, > and, as Meadhbh and others have said, are stuck on the language. > If we can get to the point where we *do* agree that the issue is just (or > mostly) language, we can work on sorting out the language, and get un- > stuck. > > As I understand the charter and the discussion leading up to it, we're arguing > about what we *mean* by "virtual world". Some want "multiple virtual > worlds" to interoperate using vwrap; others are *defining* a single virtual > world as the set of *regions* that interoperate using vwrap. > > I suggest that these are saying the same thing, that (in this regard, at least) > we have the same goal, and that these two definitions largely collapse into > one. > > Am I wrong, here? > > Barry, as chair That's my current interpretation, thank you for attempting to distill this down. I think that any differences between those two sets of terminology will manifest as policy and not protocol. John
- [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN indepe… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Mike Dickson
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Jonathan Freedman
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Hurliman, John
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Cristina Videira Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Jonathan Freedman
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Joshua Bell
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… kevin.tweedy
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Jonathan Freedman
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Barry Leiba
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Barry Leiba
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Hurliman, John
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Kari Lippert
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Hurliman, John
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Hurliman, John
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Cristina Videira Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… David W Levine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Cristina Videira Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Cristina Videira Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick