Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN independent virtual worlds or not
Barry Leiba <barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com> Mon, 20 September 2010 21:07 UTC
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Putting a finer point on what Joshua said: >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Freedman <jef@openmetaverse.org> >> wrote: >> From what I can tell the drafts do support interoperability between the >> same *class* of virtual world. The catch is that the language needs to be >> significantly clearer. > > The group's goals are formally described in the charter: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/vwrap/charter/ > ... which, based on previous iterations of this discussion, we carefully > crafted to not try and nail down what a "virtual world" was so as not to > offend those who have an investment in any particular reading of that term. Indeed, and I think we are largely arguing about something we agree on, and, as Meadhbh and others have said, are stuck on the language. If we can get to the point where we *do* agree that the issue is just (or mostly) language, we can work on sorting out the language, and get un-stuck. As I understand the charter and the discussion leading up to it, we're arguing about what we *mean* by "virtual world". Some want "multiple virtual worlds" to interoperate using vwrap; others are *defining* a single virtual world as the set of *regions* that interoperate using vwrap. I suggest that these are saying the same thing, that (in this regard, at least) we have the same goal, and that these two definitions largely collapse into one. Am I wrong, here? Barry, as chair
- [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN indepe… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Mike Dickson
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Jonathan Freedman
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Hurliman, John
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Cristina Videira Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Jonathan Freedman
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Joshua Bell
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… kevin.tweedy
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Jonathan Freedman
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Barry Leiba
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Barry Leiba
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Hurliman, John
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Kari Lippert
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Hurliman, John
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Hurliman, John
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Cristina Videira Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… David W Levine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Cristina Videira Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Cristina Videira Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] Call for a vote on interop BETWEEN in… Meadhbh Hamrick