Re: [vwrap] What abstract type systems already exist?

Morgaine <morgaine.dinova@googlemail.com> Tue, 10 May 2011 14:01 UTC

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Thanks for finding the P1828 wiki, Robert.

I looked through it to try to answer my question about whether they talk
about anything like our shared asset services, but the wiki seems to be
mostly full of placeholder terms and external references, which is in line
with what Joshua said about technological surveys.

Notice that even our VWRAP group is part of their scope.  Under *Existing
Working Groups* --> *Groups Developing Standards* --> *VWRAP*, they link the
article that Joshua, David and I wrote for IEEE Internet Computing magazine
in Feb 2010:
http://internetmessagingtechnology.org/pubs/VWRAP-for-Virtual-Worlds-Interoperability-mic2010010073.pdf

It'll be interesting to see what they do in this space once it goes beyond
technology surveys.


Morgaine.



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On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Robert G. Jakabosky
<bobby@sharedrealm.com>wrote:

> On Monday 09, Joshua Bell wrote:
> > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Boroondas Gupte
> >
> > <sllists@boroon.dasgupta.ch>wrote:
> > > *What abstract type systems do currently exist *("exist" as in
> published
> > > and sufficiently documented. Don't have to be formally standardized,
> > > though if they are, that's a plus.)* and how do they compare to LLSD?*
> >
> > This is an excellent question.
> >
> > For what it's worth, it's possible that at least the first part of this
> > question has been explored as it relates to virtual worlds by the IEEE
> > P1828 working group http://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/1828.htmlon
> > virtual worlds. I'm on the mailing list (as are some other VWRAP list
> > members, I believe) but confess to not having spent any significant time
> > engaged with the group.
> >
> > What I do know is that P1828 members have performed a number of
> technology
> > surveys. The working group is not focused on any particular architecture
> > for virtual worlds (as chartered, VWRAP has a fairly specific approach in
> > mind), and is instead looking broadly at possible technologies to embrace
> > as "best practices" for virtual worlds. The P1828 working group's
> > discussion list is
> http://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?A0=VWSTANDARDWKGRP
> > - you might find it worthwhile to peruse archives and/or engage in
> > discussions with that group regarding this and other issues where
> > consensus on a new or converging design is not the driving factor (as it
> > tends to be within IETF groups) but exploring existing technologies for
> > suitability within a problem domain.
>
> I talked with chairperson of that IEEE working group and he said that the
> archive it only accessible to members of that working group, but there is a
> public wiki with some information from the group:
> http://www.metaversestandards.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
>
> --
> Robert G. Jakabosky
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