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Crista Lopes <lopes@ics.uci.edu> Sat, 25 September 2010 00:26 UTC

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No one is talking about web pages. I'm talking about web applications: 
what's behind an URL is a complex system -- like Facebook, but with a 3D 
component to it.

On 9/24/2010 5:21 PM, Morgaine wrote:
> Sure, I've seen that Quake II demo in a browser.  Nice, and very 
> promising.
>
> That doesn't help us here though.
>
> As I wrote, virtual worlds are far more complex than web pages, and 
> can't be handled in the same ad hoc fashion as web pages if we expect 
> any useful amount of interop to occur.  Browsers becoming more 
> powerful doesn't modify this situation at all.  Complexity doesn't 
> decrease just because you can process code faster with newer technology.
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> Morgaine.
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> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Crista Lopes <lopes@ics.uci.edu 
> <mailto:lopes@ics.uci.edu>> wrote:
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>     On 9/24/2010 2:05 PM, Morgaine wrote:
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>         Virtual worlds are far more complex than web pages, and can't
>         be handled in the same ad hoc fashion as web pages if we
>         expect any useful amount of interop to occur.
>
>
>     Morgaine, just in case you missed this:
>     http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/2010/04/look-ma-no-plugin.html
>
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