Re: [vwrap] one question

Crista, the simple answer is *Yes*, but a more accurate answer is that the
question is not really very well posed, because it suggests things about
VWRAP that aren't really applicable.

The *Yes* answer is actually an answer to the question "Is VWRAP a suitable
framework for developing protocols for interoperability between virtual
worlds based on OpenSimulator (or similar).  Sure, that's the idea. :-)))

But in VWRAP, it is immaterial what kind of client application runs the
client endpoint of the VWRAP protocols, so the phrase "virtual worlds that
use the web browser as the client" doesn't really make much sense in our
context.  The answer is *Yes* only because we scratch our heads and then
ignore the phrase as an unnecessary condition.  Sure, why not? :-)))

Admittedly, your student would probably need to do some rather unnatural
coding since the VW model is really quite distant from the Web model, and
Javascript in the browser runs sandboxed so it's an interesting question how
your client would be coaxed to talk to various external services, for
example to be able to see assets worn by visitors from other worlds.
(Remember that VWRAP is not tied to the SL model in which everything is
proxied through the current sim, a highly non-scalable arrangement.)

I think that answers your question from the VWRAP end, but I get the feeling
there's something missing still.  Perhaps I could pose a question of my own
to help the discussion:  Do you consider a "virtual world that uses the web
browser as the client" to be significantly different to a virtual world that
doesn't define the type of client?

I would hope your answer is "No", since otherwise it would suggest that
worlds are going to Balkanize by the clients they use, which of course would
help nobody, and interop would be compromised.

Morgaine.

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On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Cristina Videira Lopes
<lopes@ics.uci.edu>wrote;wrote:

> Let me summarize my main puzzlement with the drafts, and with some of the
> things stated here, with one very simple yes/no question that, hopefully,
> the group will get to a consensus in no time:
>
> I have a student starting to work on a JavaScript+HTML5 viewer for
> brain-dead-simple, multi-user, OpenSimulator-served scenes. I can do that
> very easily with OpenSim, since the client protocol is a plugin. Is VWRAP
> set up to develop protocols for interoperability between virtual worlds
> that, like these ones, use the web browser as the client?
> a) Yes
> b) No
>
> People's answers?
>
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