[vwrap] Fwd: one question
Meadhbh Hamrick <ohmeadhbh@gmail.com> Thu, 23 September 2010 03:26 UTC
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yes and no. VWRAP is set up to develop protocols for service interoperability. if you choose to deploy these services to render a virtual world, then the answer is yes. but the protocol specification does not require endpoints to be user agents. but you could just as easily use VWRAP to, for instance, control inworld bots. or you could have a web app that retrieves asset data directly from an asset service and renders it using WebGL (maybe for something like xstreetsl.) but my answers shouldn't be a surprise, since it's clear i like the term "service level interop." but the use case you describe: yes. the PROTOCOLs used in the use case are in scope. other aspects, probably not. we don't want to specify a single internal virtual world state. if we build a protocol where the client portion (at least) can't be rendered with HTML5+WebGL, then i would say we've failed. also, in the example you give, there's no reason you couldn't have an app that spoke some VWRAP and spoke some linden legacy protocol and some <fill in the blank>. -cheers -- meadhbh hamrick * it's pronounced "maeve" @OhMeadhbh * http://meadhbh.org/ * OhMeadhbh@gmail.com On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Cristina Videira Lopes <lopes@ics.uci.edu> wrote: > Let me summarize my main puzzlement with the drafts, and with some of the > things stated here, with one very simple yes/no question that, hopefully, > the group will get to a consensus in no time: > > I have a student starting to work on a JavaScript+HTML5 viewer for > brain-dead-simple, multi-user, OpenSimulator-served scenes. I can do that > very easily with OpenSim, since the client protocol is a plugin. Is VWRAP > set up to develop protocols for interoperability between virtual worlds > that, like these ones, use the web browser as the client? > a) Yes > b) No > > People's answers? > > _______________________________________________ > vwrap mailing list > vwrap@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vwrap >
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- Re: [vwrap] one question Jonathan Freedman
- Re: [vwrap] one question Hurliman, John
- Re: [vwrap] one question Morgaine
- [vwrap] Fwd: one question Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] one question Cristina Videira Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] one question David W Levine
- [vwrap] End point "behavior" (was: one question) Boroondas Gupte
- Re: [vwrap] End point "behavior" (was: one questi… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] End point "behavior" (was: one questi… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [vwrap] End point "behavior" Crista Lopes
- Re: [vwrap] one question Morgaine
- Re: [vwrap] End point "behavior" Meadhbh Hamrick
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