venue for review of draft-abarth-mime-sniff-03
Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com> Tue, 26 January 2010 07:13 UTC
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From: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:13:02 -0800
Subject: venue for review of draft-abarth-mime-sniff-03
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> I'm not sure what the best venue for discussing the > draft might be. I suspect that public-html, > whatwg, or ietf-http-wg might have the most > knowledgeable folks. The document as it stands on does not restrict itself to sniffing only in the context of HTML, or only for the applications within HTTP. Rather, it is a general set of guidelines for content-type heuristics. If you mean to have a narrower applicability for this document, then it would need substantial editing to make that clear, and would then also need more analysis of the impact of having one interpretation of MIME for HTTP when invoked from HTML while another for every other context. I picked "apps-discuss" after a discussion Lisa (apps area director). While it was previously discussed on ietf-http-wg@w3.org, substantial parts are out of scope for the current HTTPBIS working group. One of the major concerns about "sniffing" is whether the sniffing rules are compatible with the behavior of other Internet applications that use MIME, e.g., email, news, instant messaging. Since the document and concept has already had substantial review within whatwg, ietf-http-wg, public-html, and public-webapps, I think the concern should turn to insuring review by the rest of the affected protocol designers and implementors. apps-discuss is archived: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss Larry -- http://larry.masinter.net -----Original Message----- From: Adam Barth Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:15 PM To: Larry Masinter Cc: HTTP Working Group; public-html@w3.org; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: FYI: review of draft-abarth-mime-sniff-03 Thanks Larry. I'm not subscribed to apps-discuss, so I might not see discussion that takes place there. I'm not sure what the best venue for discussing the draft might be. I suspect that public-html, whatwg, or ietf-http-wg might have the most knowledgeable folks. Adam On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com> wrote: > Since raised on W3C TAG > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jan/0076.html: > > I reviewed draft-abarth-mime-sniff. I'm not sure I found all of the past > discussion on the document, and I probably got some wrong, but it hasn't > been updated in quite a while. > > I sent the review to apps-discuss (since it deals with non-HTTP sniffing as > well): > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss/current/msg01250.html > > (discussion on apps-discuss@ietf.org) > > Since there are several W3C documents advancing that make normative > reference to this, getting timely review should be a priority. > > Larry > -- > http://larry.masinter.net
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