Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> Mon, 29 July 2013 04:05 UTC

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From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs
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On 29 July 2013 05:55, Paul E. Jones <paulej@packetizer.com> wrote:

> Melvin,****
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> Ideally, new values would be registered with IANA.  That ought to come in
> the form of an RFC to fully explain their purpose so that there is no
> misunderstanding as to the intent of any particular “rel” value.****
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> The “blog” one I assigned under the packetizer.com domain was done since
> there wasn’t one (AFAIK) that meant precisely the same thing.  I expect
> some non-registered values will conflict with other non-registered values.
> That’s OK.  People build products and need an identifier.  We see this with
> every protocol.  Once there is a certain amount of momentum for it and/or
> people feel a “rel” ought to be registered because it has wide
> applicability, then definitely register a value.
>

Regarding blog there's a few such as FOAF, DOAP, SIOC, Schema.org, vivo and
others.  I would think foaf : weblog is the most common (
http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/weblog )

Here's a handy tool for finding existing properties

http://lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/search/#s=blog

In a general sense, I would suggest best practice reusing where possible.
Otherwise create a new URL.  Only in a few cases, when you are sure there's
no clash or ambiguity to go for the registry route.


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> Paul****
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> *From:* Melvin Carvalho [mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:58 PM
> *To:* Javier Rojas Blum
> *Cc:* Paul E. Jones; webfinger; Tim Bray;
> openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com; Edmund Jay
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> *Subject:* Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs****
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> On 23 July 2013 22:07, Javier Rojas Blum <javier@gluu.org> wrote:****
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> Please try this:
> https://seed.gluu.org/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:javier@seed.gluu.org&rel=http%3A%2F%2Fopenid.net%2Fspecs%2Fconnect%2F1.0%2Fissuer
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> I'm seeing a lot of global keys ("rel" parameters) that are not in the
> official registry:
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> http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xhtml****
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> e.g. evan's "favourites" "lists", nick's "auth-endpoint", paul's "test"
> and quite a few more -- it seems something of a free for all, how are
> clients supposed to interpret these?****
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> some of these links do not resolve anywhere such as :
> http://schemas.google.com/g/2010%23updates-from****
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> others such as "http://packetizer.com/rel/blog" seem to be creating
> existing concepts -- would it not be better to reuse things long standing
> dictionaries such foaf, schema.org, sioc, open graph protocol etc.****
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>  ****
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> Regards
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> -- Javier****
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> On 07/23/2013 03:54 PM, Paul E. Jones wrote:****
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> I get a 200 OK when I query, but the message body appears to be empty.****
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> *From:* webfinger-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:webfinger-bounces@ietf.org<webfinger-bounces@ietf.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Javier Rojas Blum
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:51 PM
> *To:* Edmund Jay
> *Cc:* webfinger@ietf.org; openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com; Tim
> Bray; Paul E. Jones
> *Subject:* Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs****
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>  ****
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> acct:javier@seed.gluu.org
> acct:mike@seed.gluu.org
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> -- Javier
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> On 07/22/2013 02:14 PM, Edmund Jay wrote:****
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> The following can be used : ****
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> alice@connect.openid4.us or****
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> bob@connect.openid4.us****
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> -- Edmund****
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> *From:* Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com><Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>
> *To:* "openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com"<openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com>
> <openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com><openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com>;
> Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> <tbray@textuality.com>om>; Paul E. Jones
> <paulej@packetizer.com> <paulej@packetizer.com>
> *Cc:* "webfinger@ietf.org" <webfinger@ietf.org> <webfinger@ietf.org><webfinger@ietf.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:51 PM
> *Subject:* RE: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs****
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>  ****
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> Could those of you with OpenID OPs that support discovery please post
> specific identifiers using e-mail address syntax that Tim could use for
> testing e-mail based discovery using WebFinger?****
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>                                                             Thanks all,***
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>                                                             -- Mike****
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> *From:* openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com [
> mailto:openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com<openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Mike Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:34 PM
> *To:* Tim Bray; Paul E. Jones
> *Cc:* webfinger@ietf.org; openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs****
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> See http://osis.idcommons.net/wiki/Category:OC5_OP for a list of OpenID
> providers, most of which implement Discovery, including WebFinger.****
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>                                                             -- Mike****
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> *From:* webfinger-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:webfinger-bounces@ietf.org<webfinger-bounces@ietf.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Tim Bray
> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 9:34 PM
> *To:* Paul E. Jones
> *Cc:* webfinger@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs****
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>  ****
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> Got an OpenID Connect provider? rel=
> http://openid.net/specs/connect/1.0/issuer****
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> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Paul E. Jones <paulej@packetizer.com>
> wrote:****
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> Tim,****
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> You’re welcome to test my addresses, including mailto: / acct: / xmpp: ***
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> Most of what is returned is just test data (though some is valid), but it
> should be properly formatted.****
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> I have aliases, properties, titles, and non-ASCII characters in the acct:
> reply.  I’m happy to throw something in if you want to check a particular
> response.****
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> Paul****
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> *From:* webfinger-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:webfinger-bounces@ietf.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Bray
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:54 PM
> *To:* webfinger@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [webfinger] Looking for JRDs****
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>  ****
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> Working on some WF code... looking for some candidate addresses/domains to
> test JRD wrangling.  Suggestions? -T****
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