Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

"Paul E. Jones" <paulej@packetizer.com> Mon, 29 July 2013 03:55 UTC

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From: "Paul E. Jones" <paulej@packetizer.com>
To: "'Melvin Carvalho'" <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, "'Javier Rojas Blum'" <javier@gluu.org>
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Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs
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Melvin,

 

Ideally, new values would be registered with IANA.  That ought to come in
the form of an RFC to fully explain their purpose so that there is no
misunderstanding as to the intent of any particular "rel" value.

 

The "blog" one I assigned under the packetizer.com domain was done since
there wasn't one (AFAIK) that meant precisely the same thing.  I expect some
non-registered values will conflict with other non-registered values.
That's OK.  People build products and need an identifier.  We see this with
every protocol.  Once there is a certain amount of momentum for it and/or
people feel a "rel" ought to be registered because it has wide
applicability, then definitely register a value.

 

Paul

 

From: Melvin Carvalho [mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:58 PM
To: Javier Rojas Blum
Cc: Paul E. Jones; webfinger; Tim Bray;
openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com; Edmund Jay
Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

 

 

 

On 23 July 2013 22:07, Javier Rojas Blum <javier@gluu.org> wrote:

Please try this:
https://seed.gluu.org/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:javier@seed.gluu.o
rg
<https://seed.gluu.org/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:javier@seed.gluu.
org&rel=http%3A%2F%2Fopenid.net%2Fspecs%2Fconnect%2F1.0%2Fissuer>
&rel=http%3A%2F%2Fopenid.net%2Fspecs%2Fconnect%2F1.0%2Fissuer

 

I'm seeing a lot of global keys ("rel" parameters) that are not in the
official registry:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xhtml

e.g. evan's "favourites" "lists", nick's "auth-endpoint", paul's "test" and
quite a few more -- it seems something of a free for all, how are clients
supposed to interpret these?

some of these links do not resolve anywhere such as :
http://schemas.google.com/g/2010%23updates-from

others such as "http://packetizer.com/rel/blog" seem to be creating existing
concepts -- would it not be better to reuse things long standing
dictionaries such foaf, schema.org, sioc, open graph protocol etc.

 


Regards

-- Javier




On 07/23/2013 03:54 PM, Paul E. Jones wrote:

I get a 200 OK when I query, but the message body appears to be empty.

 

 

From: webfinger-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:webfinger-bounces@ietf.org] On
Behalf Of Javier Rojas Blum
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:51 PM
To: Edmund Jay
Cc: webfinger@ietf.org; openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com; Tim Bray;
Paul E. Jones
Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

 

acct:javier@seed.gluu.org
acct:mike@seed.gluu.org

-- Javier


On 07/22/2013 02:14 PM, Edmund Jay wrote:

The following can be used : 

 

alice@connect.openid4.us or

bob@connect.openid4.us

 

-- Edmund

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From: Mike Jones  <mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>
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<openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com>om>; Tim Bray
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Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:51 PM
Subject: RE: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

 

Could those of you with OpenID OPs that support discovery please post
specific identifiers using e-mail address syntax that Tim could use for
testing e-mail based discovery using WebFinger?

 

                                                            Thanks all,

                                                            -- Mike

 

From: openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com
[mailto:openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Jones
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:34 PM
To: Tim Bray; Paul E. Jones
Cc: webfinger@ietf.org; openid-connect-interop@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

 

See http://osis.idcommons.net/wiki/Category:OC5_OP for a list of OpenID
providers, most of which implement Discovery, including WebFinger.

 

                                                            -- Mike

 

From: webfinger-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:webfinger-bounces@ietf.org] On
Behalf Of Tim Bray
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:34 PM
To: Paul E. Jones
Cc: webfinger@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

 

Got an OpenID Connect provider?
rel=http://openid.net/specs/connect/1.0/issuer

 

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Paul E. Jones <paulej@packetizer.com>
wrote:

Tim,

 

You're welcome to test my addresses, including mailto: / acct: / xmpp: 

 

Most of what is returned is just test data (though some is valid), but it
should be properly formatted.

 

I have aliases, properties, titles, and non-ASCII characters in the acct:
reply.  I'm happy to throw something in if you want to check a particular
response.

 

Paul

 

From: webfinger-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:webfinger-bounces@ietf.org] On
Behalf Of Tim Bray
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:54 PM
To: webfinger@ietf.org
Subject: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

 

Working on some WF code... looking for some candidate addresses/domains to
test JRD wrangling.  Suggestions? -T

 

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