Re: [Webpush] draft-chiussi-webpush-subscription-less-framework-01 and request for feedback on Subscription Management

Benjamin Bangert <> Mon, 02 November 2015 17:11 UTC

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Is there a link to this document I can read?


On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Fabio Chiussi <>

> Hi All,
> I submitted a new draft: draft-chiussi-webpush-subscription-less-framework-01,
> which I will briefly present at the WG meeting tomorrow. This draft
> discusses two issues: i) a number of relevant use cases for webpush may
> benefit from a "relaxed" model of subscription, and ii) there is an
> emerging need for global management of webpush traffic across applications.
> As a possible solution for both issues, this draft advocates the
> introduction of a notion of trusted "Subscription Authority" in charge of
> controlling webpush traffic to each UA.
> Beyond the specific solution proposed in this draft, I would like to
> solicit feedback from the mailing list on the more general issue of
> Subscription Management, which we can discuss tomorrow at the meeting.
> Specifically, any comments would be greatly appreciated on the following.
> 1. For the reasons outlined in the draft, Subscription Management seems a
> very relevant practical issue that needs to be addressed.
> 2. In the current core protocol WG document, Subscription Management is
> only addressed in passing, by assuming some kind of control policy in
> assigning the subscriptions. At this time, neither the issues and use cases
> related to Subscription Management, nor the possible solutions have been
> fully studied in the draft. I think this is simply due to the fact that the
> core protocol design, for obvious reasons, has been the focus of the work
> so far, and there has not been sufficient time yet to fully address other
> relevant issues, such as Subscription Management
> 3. However, the state of the work on the core protocol design has reached
> sufficient maturity that the WG should start considering to address some of
> these other topics as well. Subscription Management seems a critical and
> urgent one, since it has very important practical ramifications. The
> solution proposed in this draft is simply one of possible candidates, and
> Subscription Management certainly deserves a more comprehensive study, and
> possibly develop a framework for Subscription Management. Because of its
> practical relevancy, subscription Management should become a WG item.
> I'll compile any comments that the mailing list may have on these topics,
> and bring them forward for discussion at the meeting tomorrow.
> Thanks,
> Fabio
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