Re: [Webpush] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-webpush-protocol-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Brian Raymor <Brian.Raymor@microsoft.com> Tue, 18 October 2016 04:14 UTC

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To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Webpush] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-webpush-protocol-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hi Stephen,

> Saying that would've definitely helped me understand what's going on.

Sorry about that. It required a few iterations for us to understand, but we got there.

> Does something need to be stated in this draft? 

Martin and I have reviewed and are in agreement that
further clarifications would not be helpful in the protocol draft.

> Or is it safe enough to assume that the
> reader will also look at the API and encryption drafts,
> and that people won't come up with other ways to handle
> pushed messages that don't support good ways to
> enforce the SOP?

Exactly. This is more relevant to the Push API / W3C which Martin
is now tracking in https://github.com/w3c/push-api/issues/211. 

And our experience is that developers are consuming all the related
drafts. We had some new members during WGLC who demonstrated
this point with their contributions.

This was definitely a subtle discussion. We appreciate that your review
called this out for consideration. 

...Brian