Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up

Costin Manolache <costin@gmail.com> Wed, 27 April 2016 14:50 UTC

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From: Costin Manolache <costin@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 14:50:33 +0000
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 7:41 AM Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 28 April 2016 at 00:35, Costin Manolache <costin@gmail.com> wrote:
> > How does the HTTP/2 flow control window apply to push promises ?
>
> It might not have any effect given that flow control only affects
> payloads and there isn't likely to be a payload.
>

That was my understanding as well - TCP window may help a bit, but there is
little feedback for load balancing, and quite tricky to use it right by AS.



>
> I agree that the DELETE response is redundant, but it's not an
> inordinate burden.
>

Agreed - it does affect the throughput, but more connections can handle
this.

Costin