Re: [Webpush] Non-blocking comments on -05

Brian Raymor <Brian.Raymor@microsoft.com> Wed, 01 June 2016 23:34 UTC

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From: Brian Raymor <Brian.Raymor@microsoft.com>
To: RUELLAN Herve <Herve.Ruellan@crf.canon.fr>, Peter Beverloo <beverloo@google.com>, "webpush@ietf.org" <webpush@ietf.org>
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Herve,

Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. Here are some partial responses.

On June 1, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Herve Ruellan < Herve.Ruellan@crf.canon.fr> wrote:

> And another one for changing the URIs used in the examples and making them more explicit (which I think is helpful for a first-time reader of the spec):
> https://github.com/webpush-wg/webpush-protocol/pull/94

Comments in https://github.com/webpush-wg/webpush-protocol/pull/94#issuecomment-223152708

> 1. Some of the URNs used may be confusing. Renaming them could help make things clearer.

> The push message subscription set URN, "urn:ietf:params:push:set", could be changed to "urn:ietf:params:push:sub:set",
> to better show it is related to push message subscription resources and not directly to push resources.

> The receipt subscription URN, "urn:ietf:params:push:receipt", could be changed to "urn:ietf:param:push:receipt:sub",
> to better show it corresponds to a receipt *subscription* resource and not to a receipt resource (even if these don't exist).

I don't have strong feelings about making this change now. I'll wait to see if there's further support on the mailing list.

> 2. What does a push server that receives a request for a push message with "Prefer: respond-async"
> but doesn't want to provide a receipt subscription, or doesn't support providing receipts? Is this allowed in the first place?

The push service is required to support receipt subscriptions.

   The push service MUST also provide a URI for the receipt
    subscription resource in a link relation of type
  "urn:ietf:params:push:receipt".