Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protocol-05
Richard Maher <maherrj@googlemail.com> Thu, 19 May 2016 06:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protocol-05
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Interesting developments: - GCM has been rebranded to Firebase Cloud Messaging (FCM). FCM <http://firebase.google.com/docs/cloud-messaging/> inherits the reliable and scalable GCM infrastructure, plus new features! See the FAQ <http://firebase.google.com/support/known-issues/#messaging-difference> to learn more. If you are integrating messaging in a new app, start with FCM. GCM users are strongly recommended to upgrade to FCM, in order to benefit from new FCM features today and in the future. FIREbase - Hell of a catchy name! What's Mozilla's Autopush called? "Firebase the bullet-proof, scaleable, industrial-strength infrastructure behind Firefox." I like it. On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Richard Maher <maherrj@googlemail.com> wrote: > "5.4 Updating Push Messages" is based on the misconception that "Topics" > are "Collapse Keys". The standard as proposed has been superseded by event > on the ground by established, successful, and more importantly scalable > solutions: - > > Google Cloud Messaging: - > https://developers.google.com/cloud-messaging/topic-messaging > > Azure Notification Hubs: - > > https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2013/09/16/delivering-push-notifications-to-millions-of-devices-with-windows-azure-notification-hubs/ > > Whether the Topics are identified via HTTP headers or JSON Tokens is the > only moot point. What is clear is that the proposed protocol attempts to > conflate the Topic and Collapse Key features: - > > https://developers.google.com/cloud-messaging/concept-options#collapsible_and_non-collapsible_messages > > The fact that quintessential Push Notification feature "Broadcasting" has > been descoped from this protocol must be sufficient to reject the proposal. > > Please do not make the same mistake that you made with Geofences. IETF and > W3C credibility has already suffered enough. > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:32 AM, Shida Schubert <shida@ntt-at.com> wrote: > >> All; >> >> As discussed at the IETF 95, as last issue surrounding the subscription >> re-use is addressed, we are starting a Working Group Last Call for the >> webpush protocol. >> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-webpush-protocol-05 >> >> If you have any issues or questions regarding the draft please submit it >> to the list, when raising issues please provide constructive resolution >> when possible. >> >> Please acknowledge on the list even when you are content/happy with the >> status of the draft. >> >> The Working Group Last Call will end on June 6th (3 weeks). >> >> Shida >> As co-chair >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Webpush mailing list >> Webpush@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/webpush >> >> >
- [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protocol-05 Shida Schubert
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Richard Maher
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Richard Maher
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Shida Schubert
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Shida Schubert
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Richard Maher
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Richard Maher
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Shida Schubert
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Richard Maher
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… jr conlin
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Peter Beverloo
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Brian Raymor
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… JR Conlin
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Richard Maher
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… RUELLAN Herve
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protoco… Shida Schubert