Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protocol-05

Richard Maher <maherrj@googlemail.com> Thu, 19 May 2016 06:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Webpush] WGLC for draft-ietf-webpush-protocol-05
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On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Richard Maher <maherrj@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> "5.4 Updating Push Messages" is based on the misconception that "Topics"
> are "Collapse Keys". The standard as proposed has been superseded by event
> on the ground by established, successful, and more importantly scalable
> solutions: -
>
> Google Cloud Messaging: -
> https://developers.google.com/cloud-messaging/topic-messaging
>
> Azure Notification Hubs: -
>
> https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2013/09/16/delivering-push-notifications-to-millions-of-devices-with-windows-azure-notification-hubs/
>
> Whether the Topics are identified via HTTP headers or JSON Tokens is the
> only moot point. What is clear is that the proposed protocol attempts to
> conflate the Topic and Collapse Key features: -
>
> https://developers.google.com/cloud-messaging/concept-options#collapsible_and_non-collapsible_messages
>
> The fact that quintessential Push Notification feature "Broadcasting" has
> been descoped from this protocol must be sufficient to reject the proposal.
>
> Please do not make the same mistake that you made with Geofences. IETF and
> W3C credibility has already suffered enough.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:32 AM, Shida Schubert <shida@ntt-at.com> wrote:
>
>> All;
>>
>> As discussed at the IETF 95, as last issue surrounding the subscription
>> re-use is addressed, we are starting a Working Group Last Call for the
>> webpush protocol.
>>
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-webpush-protocol-05
>>
>> If you have any issues or questions regarding the draft please submit it
>> to the list, when raising issues please provide constructive resolution
>> when possible.
>>
>> Please acknowledge on the list even when you are content/happy with the
>> status of the draft.
>>
>> The Working Group Last Call will end on June 6th (3 weeks).
>>
>> Shida
>> As co-chair
>>
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