Re: [Webpush] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-webpush-encryption-08: (with COMMENT)

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Wed, 16 August 2017 00:47 UTC

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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 10:47:37 +1000
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To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
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Subject: Re: [Webpush] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-webpush-encryption-08: (with COMMENT)
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Thanks ekr, your PR is here:

  https://github.com/webpush-wg/webpush-encryption/pull/20

I ripped off your text.

On 16 August 2017 at 10:22, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-webpush-encryption-08: No Objection
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> Moving to No Objection because my DISCUSS is fixed in:
> https://github.com/webpush-wg/webpush-encryption/commit/645a04b3b86ffe10322134e27a3d3c5eb5a8b06b
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> Note, I think technically only the UA needs to do point verification if the app
> generates a fresh key as implied by S 2. It would also be nice to have a cite
> to how to do the point verification. This text can be stolen from TLS 1.3.
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> S 1.
>    This document describes how messages sent using this protocol can be
>    secured against inspection, modification and falsification by a Push
>    Service.
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> "forgery" is more customary than falsification.
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> S 3.3.
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>    key_info = "WebPush: info" || 0x00 || ua_public || as_public
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> You should make clear that the string is not null-terminated. Ugh, I know.
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> S 3.4.
> You should clearly separate which pieces are defined in this document
> and which are defined in the HTTP encryption document.
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