Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription sets
Costin Manolache <costin@gmail.com> Mon, 11 January 2016 17:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription sets
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It's even more complicated if you consider that a camera may have it's own wifi connection ( watches are in this situation). Another example is 'multiple profiles/users' on the same device, sharing a single TCP connection. No objections - but it's one of the most difficult problems, implementing it efficiently is tricky. I suggest considering the same authentication mechanism that we discussed for app servers in the case of UAs - i.e. a JWT, signed with UA-generated key. Would eliminate some ambiguity, and make it a bit more clear what happens in cases of multiple paths to reach the final device ( camera/watch/etc). Costin On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Hervé Ruellan <herve.ruellan@crf.canon.fr> wrote: > The PR brings a good solution for our use case of a client acting as a > proxy. I've got no objections merging it, on the contrary. > > Hervé > > > On 09/01/16 02:05, Brian Raymor wrote: > >> >> Is there any further feedback on Martin's pull request? >> >> https://github.com/webpush-wg/webpush-protocol/pull/67 >> >> If there are no objections, I'd like to merge into the webpush draft >> early next week. >> >> ...Brian >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Hervé Ruellan [mailto:herve.ruellan@crf.canon.fr] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 10:22 AM >> To: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> >> Cc: Benjamin Bangert <bbangert@mozilla.com>; webpush@ietf.org; Brian >> Raymor <Brian.Raymor@microsoft.com> >> Subject: Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription sets >> >> Thanks for the pull request. >> >> I find it a good compromise: it covers our use-case while still >> encouraging UA to reuse subscription sets. >> >> Hervé >> >> On 24/11/15 00:19, Martin Thomson wrote: >> > On 23 November 2015 at 13:46, Brian Raymor <Brian.Raymor@microsoft.com> >> wrote: >> >> Perhaps the combination of "user agent decides" with "push service >> *encourages*" >> >> by limiting concurrent HTTP/2 streams is the potential compromise. >> > >> > That's where I'm headed. Though I'm also adding "spec *encourages*" >> > by using the word MUST. I don't think that we get any gains for the >> > important scenarios if we don't provide at least some encouragement to >> > aggregate into a set. >> > >> > I've added text to the PR that explains what the push service might do >> > to punish user agents that don't allow for aggregation. It's relying >> > on the same magical anti-DoS stuff again, which is hardly ever >> > perfect, but often adequate in practice. >> > >> > Here I expect that looking at the connection will work to catch >> > genuine but innocent mistakes. The bad guys are always going to be >> > harder to pin down. >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Webpush mailing list > Webpush@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/webpush >
- [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription sets Hervé Ruellan
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Benjamin Bangert
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Hervé Ruellan
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Benjamin Bangert
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Brian Raymor
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Hervé Ruellan
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Benjamin Bangert
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Brian Raymor
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Hervé Ruellan
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Brian Raymor
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Hervé Ruellan
- Re: [Webpush] Use Case related to subscription se… Costin Manolache