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Brian Raymor <Brian.Raymor@microsoft.com> Fri, 03 June 2016 03:39 UTC

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From: Brian Raymor <Brian.Raymor@microsoft.com>
To: Kit Cambridge <kcambridge@mozilla.com>, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
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On Thursday, June 2, 2016 12:02 AM, Kit Cambridge <kcambridge@mozilla.com> wrote:

> In section 4.1, I'm not clear what "unable to receive push messages that are aggregated for the lifetime of the subscription" means.
> If the UA is forwarding requests, could it still disaggregate messages sent to a subscription set before delivering them to the other clients?

This change was introduced for Canon's scenario - http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/webpush/current/msg00357.html.

Herve has a pending pull request - https://github.com/webpush-wg/webpush-protocol/pull/96 - with editorial updates to 4.1:
  https://github.com/webpush-wg/webpush-protocol/pull/96/commits/55b6b5efc16ab4db8363770279c87c0412a8cc12 

Does this offer enough clarification? 

...Brian

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