Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up
Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Thu, 28 April 2016 01:18 UTC
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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:18:06 +1000
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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
To: Brian Raymor <Brian.Raymor@microsoft.com>
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Cc: Costin Manolache <costin@gmail.com>, "webpush@ietf.org" <webpush@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up
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On 28 April 2016 at 10:51, Brian Raymor <Brian.Raymor@microsoft.com> wrote: > > > Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 28 April 2016 at 10:29, Brian Raymor <Brian.Raymor@microsoft.com> wrote: >>> PS can already rate control an AS: > >> This was about the reverse, having rate control on the delivery of >> receipts to the AS. It's possible that a PS could overwhelm an AS >> with these. > > I understand - my point is that the AS is creating its own problem. It's requesting > too many push messages with receipts and then failing to scale when receiving the > receipts from the PS. In this case, the AS needs to be encouraged by the PS to slow > down its rate of requests that are generating those receipts. It's not that easy. An AS could send messages out over several time and still be flooded with receipts in a sudden spike.
- [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Brian Raymor
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Brian Raymor
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Brian Raymor
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Brian Raymor
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up Brian Raymor
- Re: [Webpush] Receipt subscription follow-up RUELLAN Herve