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Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effects?

Tom Ritter <tom@ritter.vg> Thu, 24 March 2011 04:21 UTC

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From: Tom Ritter <tom@ritter.vg>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 00:22:31 -0400
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Subject: Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effects?
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I'm new to this list, so apologies if this has been discussed - but I
was surprised and dismayed when I learned of the coupling of these two
effects.  A very common situation I find myself in is adding an
exception for a self-signed certificate or otherwise untrusted
certificate, either for a personal machine, development machines, or
intranet machines.  The individual cert is verified by fingerprint
using out-of-band channels, added, and doesn't change for a while -
and we'd like to use HSTS on these boxes.  But based off my simple
testing in Chrome - coupling these effects prevents this workflow.

-tom

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