Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effects?
Adam Barth <ietf@adambarth.com> Tue, 29 March 2011 22:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effects?
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On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net> wrote: > On 03/29/2011 04:58 PM, Adam Barth wrote: >> There's no coupling between HSTS and the particular algorithm a UA >> uses to verify certificates. The UA is free to use whatever >> verification mechanism it desires. You can remove whatever CAs you >> consider sloppy from the list of trusted certificate authorities and >> add in whatever other verification mechanism you like. >> >> For example, if/when certificate verification through DNSSEC becomes >> widespread, we won't need to change anything about the HSTS spec. Of >> course, we'll need to change our implementations, but that's true >> regardless of what the HSTS spec says. > > I hear what you're saying; however, i'm unaware of any HSTS-compliant > User Agent that implements anything but the standard weakest-link X.509 > certificate pool of trusted authorities. > > Perhaps an explicit mention that says HSTS is not intended to be > incompatible with alternative certificate verification mechanisms would > provide useful guidance to browser vendors? I don't think we need that guidance, but thanks. Adam
- [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effects? Matt McCutchen
- Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effec… Tom Ritter
- Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effec… Devdatta Akhawe
- Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effec… Tobias Gondrom
- Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effec… =JeffH
- Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effec… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effec… Yoav Nir
- Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effec… Adam Barth
- Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effec… Tom Ritter
- Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effec… Adam Barth
- Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effec… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effec… Adam Barth
- Re: [websec] Decouple HSTS's two orthogonal effec… Phillip Hallam-Baker