Re: [websec] ignoring STS header fields with undefined directives (was: new rev: draft-ietf-websec-strict-transport-sec-08)

Chris Palmer <palmer@google.com> Fri, 01 June 2012 21:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [websec] ignoring STS header fields with undefined directives (was: new rev: draft-ietf-websec-strict-transport-sec-08)
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On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Alexey Melnikov
<alexey.melnikov@isode.com> wrote:

> I agree with Julian: this will make the header field effectively non
> extensible. And if you update the header field by adding new values, all
> older implementations will start ignoring it, which is a deployment
> headache.

For public key pinning, I'm allowing undefined directives in my
implementation. I should check that I'm explicit about that in the
I-D, come to think of it...