Re: [websec] Consensus call: Issue #57 (max-max-age)

Trevor Perrin <trevp@trevp.net> Tue, 04 June 2013 17:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [websec] Consensus call: Issue #57 (max-max-age)
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On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Tobias Gondrom
<tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org>wrote:

>  Hi Trevor, hi all,
>
> (again no hats)
>
> actually regarding browser lookups of pin lists:
> I rather have the pins work unlimited and all the time even without pin
> lists.
>
> But your idea might in fact be a solution to enable the unlimited pin
> times.
> Instead of constantly distributing the list of pins, we could actually
> have browsers use whitelists of pins that have been "revoked" and where the
> browser is allowed to refresh. That could e.g. happen with a browser update.
>

Hi Tobias,

I agree there may need to be a mechanism for browser vendors (or other
third parties) to push out "pin revocation lists" that delete bad pins.

But if a bad pin occurs, there may be some latency before this list could
be updated.  And if a lot of bad pins occur, the list might not be large
enough to contain them all.

So I still think we want strong safeguards (such as max-age limits) to
reduce the incidence of bad pins as much as possible.


Trevor