Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin' permanent and provisional
Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Thu, 14 February 2013 05:04 UTC
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Subject: Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin' permanent and provisional
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We've been talking for a while about revising 3864; it needs a lot more than this done. Cheers, On 14/02/2013, at 7:54 AM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote: > On 2013-02-13 21:43, Yoav Nir wrote: >> >> On Feb 13, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> >> wrote: >> >>> Well. >>> >>> You make it sound as if it's ok to run two different registries with partly overlapping values. It's not. It's a bug in the way IANA handles this. This is what needs to be fixed. >>> >>> Best regards, Julian >> >> I don't want to turn this into a process debate, but having a provisional registry like this allows you to create interoperable implementations while the document is still at draft. I often see a push to get a document published because we need the IANA assignments for products. > > Yes. > >> Of course they could still do this with a single registry where provisional entries are somehow marked (with an asterisk?). That way we wouldn't get to a situation where we have double entries. > > The key thing being that both registries share the same namespace, so, by definition, an entry can not appear in both. If it does, there's a process/software problem. > > Of course the trivial way to do this right is to implement a *single* registry, and to just store a flag for each entry. > > Best regards, Julian > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-message-headers mailing list > Ietf-message-headers@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-message-headers -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/
- Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin'… SM
- Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin'… Julian Reschke
- Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin'… Yoav Nir
- Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin'… Julian Reschke
- Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin'… Barry Leiba
- Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin'… SM
- Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin'… Yoav Nir
- Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin'… Julian Reschke
- Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin'… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin'… Julian Reschke
- Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin'… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin'… Graham Klyne
- Re: [websec] [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP 'Origin'… Bjoern Hoehrmann