Return-Path: X-Original-To: webtransport@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: webtransport@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BFB12006D for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:04:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=adligo-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SZdxD2C80-51 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk1-x72a.google.com (mail-qk1-x72a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5ED6A120018 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-x72a.google.com with SMTP id d79so50224983qke.11 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:03:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=adligo-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=RDY/WadoNLiAO571SHvmtOQSDvES4MdqUj5uo0+vg/4=; b=seXBbsExiUaounQUpjn1jW72LsFOIX/R2XLg5Cjmad6/BBek01H06EpHNstIIGyPMX +anMHMT9duYJQPNSqN7l7u+zC/zfWdgNI1y06MkLNkQSSYh2ftJQJDRdS3Leg/bXwWt8 xBs8klgwjF+oL0jJgQKUhLUIwC3+851TB42U0HRWjYoUynNHlWnqMNnp9yNG+r3NZ4o3 vnO/b6hKeoW0X8U1llkaJfBUXZQgPpIaExEdLLE03FAQ5vG2fuHCzeo4FcpHTOxoiFXG ry0jIqjfNyKelrtFUOycNH7cwTbgW+m91oJQHfuD+i5bB+WTZal5Y7uP19ZMgqpaOT78 tV5Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=RDY/WadoNLiAO571SHvmtOQSDvES4MdqUj5uo0+vg/4=; b=aLqiTJ1ax15cmgVlMWtM0KVSGj1ltvg0bO53ZvvDr68Hbf8iDKXVTukABdnkFO6h+l f2pO5jw2soct4nmSLWxl10VMgCOoWIMYWE2leXrc2nVI4A4omgPCnoC6s9qOa3PMbmRR 8Ru0JnEBNkRPa8tKMbg3lFS3UDgjtJakYhxQrNYCuoFn/5vvXaPdkEWOzQNy44kibaPm Mo364mUWIZk9dlPIVqKJxXzW5gyL/HKu80v61bbb6FvJVC6xsd69FPUTslx3vcTGv10c 2Yjl0B2syea9XWRNDrqDgPkXGCtS0TeHakyQ4rCIlmNtv7y5WvgO7Yyog+WTa9uet0Wh Q43A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUlYcod+meSPQcmX5hjaTk5p3BFVa87RqWvXY/Sj2U3LScqjkzY cGg6Jb/MMnOp0VSf4z3XaWVAvk1rIiOovNAEm2FTpe0X X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw+5Y24qXqvHUl+xctUZ4iYlyGJyhe/l7Y/zX1yEKbMolK1KvDZ5SirThIJKFBisCvMuECcnnsVD7uuFuieTGE= X-Received: by 2002:ae9:c00f:: with SMTP id u15mr79995388qkk.426.1564607036203; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:03:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <85E74088-6D84-47CB-97CC-C637167959B0@cisco.com> <4f6894c1-b6ea-46c6-d662-9b2e2f4daf02@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <433A2B37-704A-419B-B56F-F7B697E35741@mnot.net> In-Reply-To: From: Scott Morgan Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 16:03:45 -0500 Message-ID: To: webtransport@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009b388b058f00767f" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Webtransport] [dispatch] [hybi] WebTransport Mailing List X-BeenThere: webtransport@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 21:04:01 -0000 --0000000000009b388b058f00767f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well my suggestion is if you don't like the name suggest one at least ;) I'll throw out some suggestions 'BigSocket' , 'WideSocket' or 'LightningSocket', although I'm not emotionally attached to any of them. On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 3:41 PM Peter Thatcher wrote= : > What's wrong with "WebTransport"? It seems like a good name to me. With > what is it confusable? > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 6:50 AM Mark Nottingham wrote: > >> +1. >> >> Naming things is hard, but when they're generic and confusable with othe= r >> things, it's worth the pain. >> >> >> > On 29 Jul 2019, at 11:53 pm, Martin J. D=C3=BCrst >> wrote: >> > >> > I think Eliot's question shows that "WebTransport" may greatly benefit >> > from a better name (or acronym). >> > >> > Regards, Martin. >> > >> > P.S.: I already subscribed to the list. >> > >> > On 2019/07/30 06:32, Victor Vasiliev wrote: >> >> Hi Eliot, >> >> >> >> WebTransport is roughly "WebSockets, but for unreliable transport", >> >> currently described in >> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview-00 and >> >> https://wicg.github.io/web-transport/. It's not related to BCP 190 >> >> discussion that happened at the other portion of ARTAREA meeting. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Victor. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 5:29 PM Eliot Lear wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Victor, >> >>> >> >>> Sorry if this has been covered, but for those of us out of the room, >> could >> >>> you provide two or three sentences as to what the mailing list is >> supposed >> >>> to cover? Is this more BCP 190 stuff or something more generic or >> just >> >>> something else? >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> >> >>> Eliot >> >>> >> >>> On 29 Jul 2019, at 22:58, Victor Vasiliev < >> >>> vasilvv=3D40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hello everyone, >> >>> >> >>> Judging from the in-person discussions in Montreal, there appears to >> be a >> >>> decent amount of interest in the WebTransport work. Everyone >> interested is >> >>> invited to join our mailing list: >> >>> >> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/webtransport >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Victor. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> hybi mailing list >> >> hybi@ietf.org >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hybi >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > Prof. Dr.sc. Martin J. D=C3=BCrst >> > Department of Intelligent Information Technology >> > College of Science and Engineering >> > Aoyama Gakuin University >> > Fuchinobe 5-1-10, Chuo-ku, Sagamihara >> > 252-5258 Japan >> > _______________________________________________ >> > dispatch mailing list >> > dispatch@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch >> >> -- >> Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dispatch mailing list >> dispatch@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch >> > --=20 Regards, Scott Morgan President & CEO Adligo Inc http://www.adligo.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-morgan-21739415 A+ Better Business Bureau Rating https://github.com/adligo By Appointment Only: 1-866-968-1893 Ex 101 scott@adligo.com skype:adligo1?call Send Me Files Securely: *https://www.sendthisfile.com/f.jsp?id=3DewOnyeFQM18IDRf7MMIdolfI * --0000000000009b388b058f00767f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well my suggestion is if you don't li= ke the name suggest one at least ;)

I'l= l throw out some suggestions 'BigSocket' , 'WideSocket' or = 'LightningSocket', although I'm not emotionally attached to any= of them.


On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 3:41 PM Peter Thatcher <= ;pthatcher@google.com> wrote= :
What's wrong with "WebTransport"?=C2=A0 It seems like= a good name to me.=C2=A0 With what is it confusable?

On Wed, Jul 31, = 2019 at 6:50 AM Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
+1.

Naming things is hard, but when they're generic and confusable with oth= er things, it's worth the pain.


> On 29 Jul 2019, at 11:53 pm, Martin J. D=C3=BCrst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> = wrote:
>
> I think Eliot's question shows that "WebTransport" may g= reatly benefit
> from a better name (or acronym).
>
> Regards,=C2=A0 =C2=A0Martin.
>
> P.S.: I already subscribed to the list.
>
> On 2019/07/30 06:32, Victor Vasiliev wrote:
>> Hi Eliot,
>>
>> WebTransport is roughly "WebSockets, but for unreliable trans= port",
>> currently described in
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/d= raft-vvv-webtransport-overview-00 and
>> https://wicg.github.io/web-transport/.=C2=A0 It= 9;s not related to BCP 190
>> discussion that happened at the other portion of ARTAREA meeting.<= br> >>
>> Cheers,
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Victor.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 5:29 PM Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Victor,
>>>
>>> Sorry if this has been covered, but for those of us out of the= room, could
>>> you provide two or three sentences as to what the mailing list= is supposed
>>> to cover?=C2=A0 Is this more BCP 190 stuff or something more g= eneric or just
>>> something else?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Eliot
>>>
>>> On 29 Jul 2019, at 22:58, Victor Vasiliev <
>>> vasilvv=3D40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> Judging from the in-person discussions in Montreal, there appe= ars to be a
>>> decent amount of interest in the WebTransport work.=C2=A0 Ever= yone interested is
>>> invited to join our mailing list:
>>>
>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/mail= man/listinfo/webtransport
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Victor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> hybi mailing list
>> hybi@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hybi >>
>
> --
> Prof. Dr.sc. Martin J. D=C3=BCrst
> Department of Intelligent Information Technology
> College of Science and Engineering
> Aoyama Gakuin University
> Fuchinobe 5-1-10, Chuo-ku, Sagamihara
> 252-5258 Japan
> _______________________________________________
> dispatch mailing list
> dispatch@ietf.o= rg
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch

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