Re: [Webtransport] New mailer and IETF107 BoF on RIPT - voip over httpbis and webtransport

Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@jdrosen.net> Tue, 18 February 2020 16:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Webtransport] New mailer and IETF107 BoF on RIPT - voip over httpbis and webtransport
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Yeah, this one is confusing. What it means is - we don't want to make an
extension to HTTP which is just for voip. The goal is to sit on top of the
modern http stack, which can include webtransport assuming that gets
standardized. Definitely that requirement needs rewording.



On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 11:12 AM Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Can you provide a bit more detail on the requirements relating to
> WebTransport, such as REQ1?
>
>    REQ1: The solution shall not require extensions or modifications to
>    HTTP/3.
>
>    REQ2: The solution shall work with both L4 and L7 HTTP load balancers
>
>    REQ3: The solution shall work in ways that are compatible with best
>    practices for load balancers and proxies supporting HTTP/3, and not
>    require any special changes to these load balancers in order to
>    function.
>
>    REQ11: The solution shall provide low latency for media
>
>    REQ12: The solution shall support audio and video
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 7:48 AM Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@jdrosen.net>
> wrote:
>
>> There is a new work effort underway to standardize an application
>> protocol on top of httpbis for real-time voice and video, basically
>> replacing SIP, RTP and SDP. This takes advantage of the usage of QUIC and
>> UDP-based transport, that makes httpbis more amenable to real-time. The
>> current draft also makes use of webtransport for media, falling back to
>> just httpbis when not available.
>>
>> We've got a mailer set up:
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v3
>>
>> And you can read the core draft here:
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rosenbergjennings-dispatch-ript/?include_text=1
>>
>>
>> We'll be holding a BoF at IETF107 in Vancouver with the aim of chartering
>> a working group.
>>
>> It would be great to get participation and support from the experts in
>> the webtransport community.
>>
>> Thx,
>> Jonathan R.
>>
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